Steve Mould - 2023-08-31
The first 100 people to use code SCIENCE at the link below will get 60% off of Incogni: https://incogni.com/science Sometimes a golf ball with pop back out of the hole. The physics behind it is quite surprising. Watch it happening in slow motion. Here's a great analysis from Daniel Walsh: https://youtu.be/4er2buINHF0?si=TpIe4k8GfKlWoERj Check out the Turntable Paradox video here: https://youtu.be/3oM7hX3UUEU Check out the Motion Amplification video here: https://youtu.be/rEoc0YoALt0 Check out RDI technologies here: https://rditechnologies.com Check out my Discord server here: https://discord.gg/B6uNzAgshy Here are the two papers: https://www.math.tecnico.ulisboa.pt/~jnatar/MG-15/golfer.pdf https://iopscience.iop.org/article/10.1088/0143-0807/28/2/024 (paywall) You can buy my books here: https://stevemould.com/books You can support me on Patreon and get access to the exclusive Discord: https://www.patreon.com/stevemould just like these amazing people: Alex Hackman Glenn Sugden Tj Steyn Pavel Dubov Lizzy and Jack Jeremy Cole Brendan Williams Frank Hereford Lukas Biewald Damien Szerszinski Marshall Fitzpatrick Heather Liu Grant Hay John Zelinka Paul Warelis Matthew Cocke Nathan Blubaugh Twitter: http://twitter.com/moulds Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/stevemouldscience/ Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/stevemouldscience/ Buy nerdy maths things: http://mathsgear.co.uk
I have been conducting a version of this experiment for years, I can confirm that it’s impossible to get a golf ball to do anything you want it to do.
Truth!
Unless you are Tiger Woods? :D
slap a mask and digital covid certificate on it and it will do everything you want it to :D
Going for the high score instead of the low score, huh?
@@bogdy72000wtf?
Motion amplification on Musical instruments might be very interesting, to see the resonacne of the notes in the body of the instrument. to see what parts of a violin, piano or guitar move, also maybe for a flute or xylophone or something like a trumpet..
All parts of the instrument, not just the obvious parts. Maybe even the floor the piano sits on. Does a solid concrete floor change the sound a piano makes over a wooden floor?
Oh yes, I'd love to see a harp soundboard.
It was my first thought as soon as he said it👍
As a guitar player I say: guitar!!! Acoustic as well as solid body electric.
@@maxximumb Church organs! The cathedrals themselves help to create the classic organ sound. It would be so cool to see how a cathedral responds to organ playing!
Collab with @AskOlafTheViolinmaker, showing effects of soundpost placement would be fenomenal
There was a thing I saw where a camera focused on a bag of chips through a window could measure the vibrations that speech made on the bag in order to reconstruct voices inside the room the bag was in. I’d love to see that sort of thing amplified.
That's the idea behind laser microphones
@@oelboy it's why you aim a loud speaker at your window(s) to defeat laser microphones
@@greggv8or curtains
@@greggv8 I do that strictly for the tunes.
That has been in use for surveillance for about 50 years.
I work on violins and bows and I would love to see motion amplification of a violin back and compare it with different shaped violins, to see if you can tell them apart visually as well as aurally. Maybe you could also test bows by sending a pulse down one and watching it resonate. You could compare different wood types and structures as well as densities and thicknesses.
I play violin and would also love to see something like this or related
I had a similar thought- but with other instruments as well- how much does a guitar body vibrate, or a grand piano?
Was thinking about a very similar idea. Would be very interested to see how and where different brass instruments vibrate, and the more fine vibrations of a brass musicians embouchure!
If you use spheres coloured in yin-yang style (each hemisphere and its pole with contrasting colours), it may be possible to see if the axis of rotation stays consistent in the entire action on the slo-mo camera.
I was thinking the same thing
Or just draw a couple lines around the ball
Draw several points all around the ball, like face motion capture for movies is made
Yeah. Why didn't he just draw an equator around the ball.
@@TheEgg185 He's milking it for a second video.
One mirror over the top of the cylinder would give you two synchronized views.
Clever
Was just going to say that 😂
Or just film with two cameras that capture sound and clap to line them up
sound of each camera might be off by a different amount.@@just2607
@@just2607 Just? 🤨
Regarding your motion amplification camera: If you're still looking for ideas, I'd recommend small aircraft. I work at a flight school and it's always amazed me how the vibrations of the engine can ripple through the airframe and have an effect on parts which (to the human eye, at least) seem incredibly stable. It could useful to see the amplified difference between a "perfectly balanced" prop and one which is very nearly balanced.
Seconded
It would probably be easier to visualise what’s happening if you'd drawn three differently-coloured circles oriented peripendicularly to each other (like representing x, y, and z coordinate planes) on the ball. It would ease tracking rotation and direction in slow motion.
same thought, I think lines can also work
For the motion amplification, I would be interested to see how houses and surrounding area reacts when a train passes by. Like what effect is the train have as it is rolling across the tracks. We just moved into a house with a set of train tracks behind us and when the train passes by it feels like the whole house shakes sometimes.
Yep, my parents house has tracks 20m behind it. When it passes by you can see water shaking in a glass.
It's called Living Next to an Effing Railway Line, what did you expect?
@@andrewemery4272bro the question is why it happens not if it happens.
So most architecture has a natural amount of 'sway' to it that (for the most part) will resist heavy vibrations by lightly rocking with the vibrations. They intentionally build skyscrapers with a certain amount of vertical flexibility to account for wind and earthquakes, and in earthquake prone areas they build most buildings to lightly rock when heavy vibrations are present. Both types of architecture use this natural principle found in almost all types of structures. Certain types of material are naturally more flexible, even if they are seemingly rigid structures. Metal is more flexible than wood, wood is more flexible than concrete and brick, and so on.
Essentially, when the train rolls through, it heavily vibrates the flexible metal tracks. Those vibrations spread through the ground and to the foundations of your home, and your home proceeds to lightly shake. It may seem like heavy shaking, but the structure as a whole is not moving that much, the flexibility of the structure makes it seem worse than it is, but also protects the home from falling to pieces.
Yeah that would be interesting! I used to live in a house with a railway line that went through a tunnel pretty much directly under it
YES I HAVE AN IDEA! The motion amplification camera video was one of the most interesting so far, and it really jogged my brain. I would love to see which parts of an acoustic guitar vibrate the most when played.
The entire body is a soundbox, but certain parts vibrate more than others, leading to differing ideas of how guitars should be braced internally to strike the balance between stability and resonance. In my experience with feeling the body while playing, the area around the bridge (understandably) feels like it resonates the most, whereas the areas surrounding the sound hole seem much less resonant.
The whole idea may require a somewhat elaborate setup to hold the guitar very stable, but I think it could be a fascinating video.
Great idea. Actually the parts that move most will change with different notes (fundamental frequencies) that are played. I would love to see this in action.
Or an electric guitar under amplification. We've already proven that tone is in the EQ and amplification stages but it would be cool to see.
I think the strings might vibrate the most, but I could be wrong.
@@chasm9557 Yes, but the strings make a very small part of the sound. The top of an acoustic guitar is designed to move air because of the movement of the strings.
I would love to see the inside of a grand piano filmed. Especially because due to resonance, when you hit one note, many other strings start vibrating without being touched depending on their resonant frequency. Very cool
Very impressive analysis . It's great that you take the time and effort to understand something that very few would give a second thought and then make what you discover available to us . Congratulations !
0:07: 🤔 The video discusses the phenomenon of a ball being thrown into a cylinder and coming back out again, exploring the concept of centrifugal force and gravity.
2:23: 🎥 The video discusses the ratio of turns between a ball and a cylinder and relates it to the turntable paradox.
4:55: 🔍 The video discusses the ratio between the wall thickness and the square root of a squash ball, as well as the ratio for a mouse ball, and suggests possible explanations for the differences.
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I guess the easiest way to figure out what happens should be painting the ball on equator and on poles, shouldn't it?
if the axis of rotation changes, poles and equator would change, plus lining it all up at the beginning would be a huge challenge. but marking the ball in some way should let us see the rotation
You would paint a red line across the equator, a blue line across the 0 and 180 degree longitude and a green line across the 90 and 270 degree longitude.
Just evenly cover the surface of the ball in dots then it shouldn’t really matter.
You could paint it like a soccer ball
@@NicoMelone painting it may not yield the same results since the paint material might not display the same properties as the original surface. A line would be a much better idea. I think pronounced dots would be an even better idea! 6 or 10 dots to mark points 90 degrees apart and let the fun begin!
The motion amplification camera is the coolest thing i've heard of in such a long time.
to me it's super creepy for no discernable reason
I'm curious if it would show something with musical instruments, especially wind instruments like flutes and trumpets.
@@petervanderwaart1138 great idea!
@@petervanderwaart1138 will a camera meant to record vibrations be able to record instruments that work because of vibration? What do you think?
@@Dragoon710they're wondering what it would look like if the vibrations picked up by the camera are great enough, Sherlock
The closest thing I can come up with to an intuitive analogy for what may be going on is from playing with marble mazes as a child. If you throw a ball bearing around a funnel in an elliptical orbit, you get the same pattern. The ball keeps missing the hole in the funnel and running back up the other side. This shape makes intuitive sense. Now all we have to do to make what the ball accomplishes in the cylinder intuitive, is to slowly augment the shape of the funnel until the funnel is a cylinder. Even with the cylinder, the ball is attempting, and is, following an elliptical orbit and "missing" the hole at the bottom of the funnel and running back up the other side. The fact that this works with the completely vertical sides of a cylinder rather than the more angular sides of a funnel, and the fact that it's more difficult to intuit and elliptical orbit inside a cylinder, is where the bizarre intuition break happens.
Suggestion for the motion amplification camera: The top of an acoustic steel string guitar. You should see the different modes of the guitar, changing by string and by note. The modes are very complex and would be really interesting to visualize.
It would cool to draw dots on the squash ball (or the smaller ball) to be able to track more precisely the axis of rotation (kind of like you get on some pool balls to illustrate the effect of spin).
Yeah, I think that the action happens because it's a curved ball 'rolling' on a curved surface. With enough force applied to set the ball in a rolling motion, the curvature of the cylinder and the curvature of the ball makes it spin on a different axis, causing it to 'turn' while it rolls. This might be simple and i'm talking out loud, but that's the part i'm interested in
@@foreverspellmanI think you're on to something. That's why the flat surface attempt fell flat. 🙃 This should have been a main response.
Yes, I was wondering why he didn’t draw lines or dots on the balls to get a better “intuitive” grasp of what was going on as they spin around the cylinder.
@@4g0tten4 ' draw lines' Yep just saw this and the first thought on seeing it, small grooves with a bright color like 3 or 4 latitude lines would show what's going on much better. Especially the once in a while you got the lines basically in line with the roll direction of motion, you would easily see the steering that is going on besides just the rolling of the ball.
It's there a little bit in the video, some tracking with the squash ball logo. But of course it would be much better with full lines.
@@bromero88 I wonder if you had an much larger circumference cylinder, would this change? The larger the circle the more like a "flat" surface it should operate? Specifically the ratio of ball circumference to cylinder.
I'd like to see the motion amplification of an interior of a car, with the engine running. It would be especially interesting if there were some sort of buzzes or rattles in the dashboard. Hopefully the motion amplification could pinpoint where the noises were coming from, as it can be hard to locate with your ears.
Yes! I bet the rearview mirror goes bananas at certain rpms.
My RV gives me a headache on the road.
The body panels on a classic muscle car idling probably do lots of wiggling
I can't explain but I think that would be hilarious. Just seeing, like, the vroom, but visually.
Was going to comment this but thankfully, that work has been done already. Please use this camera on the interior of an ICE vehicle on startup, and maybe also while running. Thanks Steve!
My first instinct was that the ball is essentially bouncing with extra steps. The centripetal force gives enough friction againt the wall that it is able to elasticly return the downward component of your initial throw. The gyroscope effect keeps the ball from just rolling down the wall by limiting its ability to spin in that direction.
@SteveMould, did you try applying the equations of orbital mechanics to it? Orbits are mathematically just sections of a cylinder. The motion of the ball looks a lot like a precessing orbital plane. The ball shooting out occurs when the trajectory matches e>1, which is what we use to slingshot spacecraft around planets.
For motion amplification you could show cars at a subwoofer competition. It’d be fun to see how the people inside look with it
oh yeah that'd be funny to watch car trunks wiggle at 40hz
Many car related things: body panel deformation; tyre deformation and rebound; dragsters; race cars and bikes.
Planes; suspensions; buildings flexing.
I had the same idea but with a rotatory subwoofer, wich can go down to 5Hz or even less. But that works best on a house i think.
PD: Also rotatory subwoofers have a lot mor dBs
At infrasonic frequencies they will generally produce much higher SPL that linear motor subwoofers. But at audible subsonic frequencies a traditional subwoofer will be superior for SPL and have much lower distortion. Modern competition winning builds for standard vehicles (not extreme vehicles) push over 160dB and on occasion even over 170dB which is physically unbearable for a human loll. Tap out territory is usually in the low 160s for most people. Extreme style vehicles get into the 180s but those can only a test tone to get those numbers.
A rotary subwoofer allows for extremely high SPL at low frequencies because they ingenuously and blatantly violate ‘excursion law.’ (Not sure what to dub it). But essentially with a normal linear motor driver, for every halving of the frequency, you need four times the excursion to maintain the same SPL (assuming there is no role play by the enclosure, infinite baffle). A rotary subwoofer completely gets around that by introducing a time constant, since the blades can continuously move air in either direction and reproduce DC. If you cut the frequency in half, then the fan just has twice the amount of time to move the air, thus no more excursion law. And at 0Hz, the fan can just move air continuously in one direction, being the equivalent of infinite excursion
That’d be awesome. Although some builds now are so ridiculous you wouldn't even need it 🤣🤣
You could film the top and side view at the same time by filming from the top and putting an angled mirror in frame next to the tube to give you the side view.
Kinda like the opposite of how they use a mirror to align two big cameras when they film 3D movies.
Or vice versa. film from the side with a mirror above for the top view. That way you don't have to get fancy with the camera mounting.
@@b.s.864 that’s probably easier… lol my brain just immediately jumps to the most complicated way to do things…
“I have a flat tire.. let’s push the car over by that huge tree, and then someone bring me 5 pulleys, a snatchblock, some industrial chain and dyneema rope. I’ll need nine strong men and a Girl Scout…”
“Or we can use the jack in the trunk…”
“Oh… right. Yeah… that works too.”
Haha
@@DanteYewToobWhich way is easier would be highly circumstantial. For instance the TV show Good Eats reportedly used the vertical camera option for many of it's cooking shots with a sliding mirror to switch to the host.
If you pay really close attention to the high speed shots, you can visually see the axis of rotation changing on the balls by watching their surface texture's spin. You'll notice that the axis seems to "flip" at that midpoint in the osclilation. If you take that initialy intuitive explanation of the ball's axis of rotation remaining the same as it travels around the cylinder, you can very clearly see that happening in every shot (its easier for the hollow ball shots, since its surface texture is less homogenous and easier to discern). But at just about the end of that first go-around you can see the ball very quickly and very suddenly flip its axis of rotation the other way, thuse steering the direction in which it spins.
You can basically "trace" their movement along the cylinder and find that it very very closely mirrors that sort of up and down spinny rotation of a spun coin as it nears the end of its spin. The balls in this case are basically tracing the edge of that coin as it spins, first going in a Top-left/bottom-right diagonal and then a Top-right/bottom-left diagonal
Now you're making me think of Veritasium's video discussing the intermediate axis theorem. I know a sphere doesn't do that, but I'm pondering it.
When Steve unrolled the cylinder I see that as an incomplete model as the diameter of the ball relative to the cylinder affects how the contact patch moves (as does the surface squishiness). Imagine a rounded motorbike tyre steering with the castor angle.
Combining it with the coin rotation paradox and throw in this idea of gyroscopic axis preservation and I think he's come up with a pretty good way to visualise the concepts going on with this one.
Anyone want to model or try the same thing with non-spherical rolling objects?
For the motion amplification camera, I think it'd be interesting to see motion in various sports contexts. How does a bat, hockey stick, or racket vibrate through impact? How does impact affect the ball? How about the human body? How do our muscles vibrate when running, jumping, swinging, etc.? Hopefully the macro motion doesn't cause any issue capturing the micro motion in these cases.
Put 3 stripes around the ball, 2 from top to bottom offset by 90 deg and a third around the “equator”. Each stripe has a different color. This will help show full motion range of the ball. You could also keep the strips solid color and instead color each of the 8 sections a different color. Then enlist the help of the slo mo guys to do a collaborative video about it.
Great idea
I love this!
"enlist the help of the slo mo guys" should be on the to-do list of every single YouTuber, no matter what the video subject is.
Or use color, if the strips modify the rotation too much.
Steve is the only person that can actually make me want to learn something I don’t need
sounds kinda similar to school, except there they make you not want to learn anything
ever played beerpong?
Oh wow, you my friend are in for a loooooooong weekend when you discover Wikipedia
I think it might be easier to explain as the ratio isn't 1:1 because the wall of the cylinder applies a torque on the ball. That torque has a different effect on the ratio based on the moment of inertia of the ball.
The intuitive explanation seems easy to come by and you nailed it I think. Conservation of angular momentum where imparted momentum eventually matches velocity at the contact point then through friction becomes an acceleration force through conservation of angular momentum while simultaneously and continuously sustaining additional conversion of velocity to angular momentum to match surface contact velocities at the tangential contact point.
For the Motion Amplification Cam, maybe a collab with Look Mum No Computer with the organ he repurposed at his place. There are some huge pipes that will oscilate when the air passes through them and you can fit dozens of these pipes in frame to see how the size affects the oscillations.
That would be cool
That's a good idea. Gun barrels are another possibility, it's one thing to know theoretically that tiny pressure bulges travel up from breach to muzzle but it would be fascinating to actually see it.
Playing a chord would be fantastic. You could see the pipes go in and out of phase with one another, or explore beats with two similarly tuned pipes.
This would be hugely awesome collab on all levels.
Steve Mould and Look Mum No Computer definitely needs to happen.
Motion Camera Idea: Oscillations of sky scrapers during wind storms. From external to internal support structure.
6:58 Wow! I didn't know that this RDI technology was a thing and it's fascinating. I'm so excited to watch your video on this topic that you mentioned. I love learning about something I've never considered before
Hey Steve... Even though I don't play squash myself, I understand there are different grades of balls for 'Speed' and those graded balls react differently during the game of squash, as in, as they warm up with the constant hitting of rackets and the wall, they change their perameters of bounce etc... So.. Would different temperatures of the squash ball make a difference in 'Slippage'/grip when performing these tests within the perspex tube and thus adjust the ratio of rotation vs raising & lowering in height? ie a warm/hot squash ball vs cold??? 🤔😏
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id like to see a motion amplification video of a jackhammer, where something is actually intended to break, to see if it can predict where stuff breaks
How about a motion amplification of a city skyline or a very tall building district during a wind storm? It would be neat to actually see a building with a tuned mass dampener next to one without!
I wrote basically an essay here just a second ago but I figured I would explain this more Layman's terms.
- Ignore gravity so you can see this change to the extreme
- ignore the gripping factor, this is taking into account sliding which ignores the force of friction.
- Now what you want to know is why it takes this trajectory, we will look at its angular momentum vector in order to see this clearly and make the trajectory horizontal.
Like this
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The area you see here is the trajectory (x axis) and angular momentum vector (y axis.) This vertical line basically just shows the angle that the ball is rotating (think of it as a pen and the ball is spinning around the pen with the pen being the center of the ball). For this angle to change, there needs to be a force which overrides the force holding it upright.
We said gravity = 0 before, now lets say the force of gravity increases based on earth. This means f=m*a , on earth (a) doesnt change. So you can only change mass. Considering this, the more mass the larger the force of gravity. Considering the ball is thrown at an angle, then your visual diagram would have a gravity force that is not in the opposite direction of the angular momentum direction, but at an angle like so
Like this
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Since this direction of gravity is not in the same direction as the ball sitting upright (its riding the wall of the tube), gravity can pull the angle in which it spins into a new path once it exceeds the force of the ball spinning upright. Once the force exceeds a certain threshold, the momentum vector will flip in order to become more stable with gravity. Before the ball flips, gravity will simply increase the wobble of the ball more and more. If we take all of this into account. Ignoring gravity once again,
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The more the mass approaches 0, the more the ball will stay in the exact trajectory it came into the tube (so the 2D view it will slide back and forth). This is because the ball is keeping the same direction of spin, you can also think of the tube being rolled out and the ball is doing something similar to the turn table or simply if you spin a ball at a 45 degree angle to the ground, when it hits the ground it will do a curve (exactly like curving a bowling ball). If you are curious of what is holding it upright, look up effects of angular momentum vector, centrifugal force, and centripetal force (just so you get it all).
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Would love to see motion amplification of a 3D printer, to be able to see the different vibrations that occur as it moves around. A comparison between a cheap and expensive printer would be cool too!
Cool idea! I'd love to see a comparison of the different stepper drivers (A4988, DRV8825, TMC2130, TMC2208, etc.) as well, but that seems more like a CNC Kitchen video than a Steve Mould one
@@hadinossanosam4459oh that's a great review strategy
Usually papers don't have very intuitive math due to how many layers the information is on top of. What I think might be helpful is use the force diagram and simulate how it changes with each time frame. That might be a good place to start
I’ve demystified the math here:
https://youtu.be/4er2buINHF0?si=dPlL8yD0K1UL-7lI
Medhi recently made a video with aluminum foil balls, where he could have used the RDI technology, to see the small movements of the balls. You two should make a follow up video together about the phenomenon! I would love to watch it happen!
For the camera, have you thought of applying it to acoustics? I’ve seen some high school math projects about wavelength acoustics in pvc pipes at different sizes and widths. Would you be able to use the camera to show the differences in how the pipes vibrate at different notes and octaves?
I think a cool object for motion amplification video would be a string instrument like a violin or a cello (Maybe a double bass depending on the maximum frequency of the camera) would be cool - there's a lot of engineering of the shapes of these instruments to control the harmonics of the sound.
Also, you don't need 2 high speed cameras if you have a good mirror, that way you don't need to sync your camera streams
Edit: Typo
I’d love to see that! The physics of amplifying low frequencies geometrically is also a really interesting topic.
Yes please
I can't picture how to position a mirror to get a horizontal view and a top down view with a single camera, can you explain?
@@swirle13put it at a ~45° angle from the camera (a little shallower for fov reasons) above the cylinder. It makes more sense if you draw arrows from the camera to the cylinder, you'll see that you have the direct path from the camera to the cylinder to see the hoz and then the mirror will bounce the view directly down the middle of the cylinder for the vert
@@swirle13 Sure: assuming that your camera has an aspect ratio somewhat similar to 16:9, point the camera vertically down with the top down shot taking up the right hand of the frame.
If you position a mirror with its bottom edge touching the base of the cylinder you should have enough frame to get a somewhat reasonable shot of the side.
I wonder if you could develop some little magnetic "kicker" to give a tiny bit of energy at the bottom of its oscillation, to keep it going indefinitely, similar to those kinetic magnetic desk toys. I would absolutely love to have something like that as a desk toy.
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Could work with a lighter ball(table tennis ball?) and a fan. The fan makes a vortex so the ball keep spinning, airflow upwards cancels out gravity.
@@m8ejust gotta keep the momentum going so it keeps spinning as well
The big version shown in the video moves fast enough already. A desk toy sized one would move too fast to admire and wouldn't look cool
It might be possible if we put the motor inside the ball (similar to electronic bablade)and power it through induction.
Ok, the horizontal experiment is interesting because with no "downward" force the rotation to oscillation ratio is much closer to 1:1. In fact, the ball leaves the cylinder at almost the same point that it enters. I'm guessing that the difference between the entry point to the exit is the fact that the ball didn't have any rotation before it came into contact with the the cylinder wall. (At least no rotation that would account for the oscillation.)
I imagine a high friction disk or ring would have a similar effect in a cylinder, and the explanation that the direction of travel around the cylinder matching the plane of rotation would make sense. I wonder if, in a ideal setting where gravity and air resistance weren't factors, if you could adjust the ratio of oscillations per rotation by simply adjusting how concentrated the mass is from the center or edge of the ring/disk. And would it behave the same if the center of mass wasn't centered in the object?
I love following Steve on his journey from bewildering phenomenon to intuitive understanding.
Edit: Didn't realize he was going to mention it during the video. Just recognized it
I'm sat here trying to figure out why he still has the ball from an old mouse to hand?
This reminds me of what happens sometimes in basketball where the equator of basketball gets really low on the rim but then the ball pops out anyway. Once I saw the ball go around the rim about 3 times before falling out instead of going through the hole.
This might have more to do with the "applied" backspin from shooting the ball, but without a mechanism to launch the ball exactly the same into the cylinder each time there's going to be inadvertent spin added each time.
The behavior reminds me of a ball rolling into and out of a bowl. If it retains enough momentum, it'll pop back out; if not, it stays in the bowl, just rolling back and forth like a pendulum. I think you already gave us an intuitive explanation - the forward momentum leads the ball into the cylinder, the gyroscopic effect wants to roll the ball back out, the frictional force direction keeps changing in relation to the gyroscopic direction, and the three start negotiating with one another. Given enough momentum and a friendly angle, the resulting path begins oscillating between downward and upward. Great video!
You could allude to the carnival game where people are required to throw balls into a wide pail thats placed at a 45 - 60 degree angle, where the goal was to make the ball stay inside the pail. The trick was to throw the ball with some combination of a bit of spin or at an angle or an arc in such a way that the balls rotation and momentum is cancelled or negated after the first contact of the pail's sides.
I think it would be helpful to track where the ball is in contact with the cylinder, and then draw/animate that path along the surface of the ball. It's not just rolling along a circular path along the circumference, and I think understanding that is important for an intuitive understanding. Also if you put markings on the ball so we can clearly see how it is actually oriented, that would help to understand/visualize what's goin on.
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I'm curious about how that would trace in a hypothetical situation without gravity or friction. Would it make circuits around an ellipse? Would it gradually level out until it's moving around a circle? How does this behave if you isolate variables and change them one at a time?
I think from its perspective, the ball is simply traveling in a straight, 2 dimensional line.
Cutting the tube open to rectangular shape should help visualize this.
It doesn’t hit bottom part because the angle doesn’t allow it to, like shooting a cue ball through narrow space. It travels in a straight line as far as the angle allows, then it hits imaginary rectangle and bounce back.
A good start to this would be to simply draw some stripes on the ball. Some design that would allow you to 'see' the spin with a high speed camera.
@SteveMould - 2023-08-31
Here's a great initiative explanation from Daniel Walsh: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4er2buINHF0&t=0s
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@cryingwater - 2023-08-31
The golf ball's dimples caused this effect
@LtMooch - 2023-08-31
Could you not put a mirror at a 45° angle above the cylinder and pull the frame of the highspeed camera back to see both angles at the same time?
@rolfsteffens7802 - 2023-08-31
Would an amplification video of a bridge with heavy traffic rolling over it or a skyscraper building swaying in the wind be of interest?
@Alecv628 - 2023-08-31
Motion amplification under electron microscope. Could you see atoms vibrating?
@Spy653 - 2023-08-31
would be fun to see what tree's or buildings look like in different levels of wind?