OwlTech - 2020-12-12
Smelting 1.4kg MLCCs using lead and silver as collector metals, followed by cupellation and silver - palladium separation. https://soundcloud.com/owl-tech/tracks
Just found your channel. Really appreciate all of the work that you have put in to your videos. Subscribed.👍❤️🇬🇧
Welcome aboard!
Спасибо за хорошее видео!
Какой тигель используете для купеляции в горне?графит?шамот?
И как долго они служат?
Спасибо.
тигель из карбида кремния
@OwlTech спасибо за ответ.
You have a magnificent channel , the precious thing you have to offer is wisdom indeed , finer then even the gold you show us how to recover
Thanks for the kind words!
Nice recovery, that should put a few beans in the pan. Excellent demonstration of the steps in this process. But for myself I would have liked to have heard more warning statements about lead vapors, platinum poising, mixing the acids, heating acids, and the chemicals used in the recovery process. I'm not faulting the video it really is an excellent demonstration. The recording is clean and sharp all the way through, narration was well planned and sequenced, and do not fear dropping the music insert and talking more. You have a good strong voice and command of the langlish.
I share this type of video with my grand children to educate them about lab safety, chemical processing, chemical reactions excetera. I saw the disclaimer at the start of the video and it will cover any legal coverage this video might need. The only reason I mention the safety to you at all is because you just never know when the viewer's mind will click on during the video and a comment anywhere from start to end might flash through in the future and save their life. Yes yes I know it's a long shot with a slim chance of happening but... Now think about this for a minute, what if it does happen? Your interactions with youtube could save a strangers from a permanent injury or even death. You might ever learn of it but in that one small action you have made this world a better place for us all to live.
Be safe brother and thank you for sharing your talent with us.
If you want surface after melting like a gold use argon gas to cover hot pallad ball immediately after taking out torch.
Absolutely amazing process, people like you were called Wizards 300 years ago.
I didn't know why but I understand you 😂
You can avoid adding the lead and just dissolve the ceramic in hydrofloric acid all the silica and ceramic will dissolve in the acid leaving the palladium as a powder ! Saving a few steps
@Strobo Strobo an isotope reactor to make Paladium?
yeah that's a great way to have the homeland security show up at your door to find your home built nuclear fusion reactor.
"Looks not so dangerous" yeah maybe if you have a billion dollar nuclear fusion reactor at work you can just borrow for a personal experiment.
@DarkShadowsX5 you should really stop and think what he meant with that comment. hint: in safety, lead is to HF, as HF is to an isotope reactor.
In your opinion, how many pounds/ kilograms of mllc’s does it take to recover one ounce of palladium?
@BigSarge36 As it looks like, over 2.5 Kilograms if you have a better method. 3 Kilos if you are the guy in the video. :D
well working with hydrofluoric acid isn't exactly easy either now is it. Or without danger.
WOW!!! That Palladium sure doesn't want to melt very well. Still came close to being pure. Great video!
Thanks 👍
That’s because palladium melts at 2831 F.
Friendly suggestions:
be sure to filter out ALL silver chloride or it will never have a shiny surface after melting.... silver contamination will be all over the surface of your metal otherwise.
Once you do the silver chloride filtering; you should be able to then add some sulfuric acid to the palladium solution to precipitate any remaining lead as lead sulfate. Filter again.
Both of these contaminants will leave that kind of surface look; almost taking away any possibility of it naturally being shiny.
Thank you for the useful information!
The one time I decided to melt a one troy ounce Palladium bar, i was surprised to discover the phenomenon of "spitting" whereby in the molten condition, palladium will absorb certain gasses in large amounts (Hydrogen if i recall acuratley), then upon cooling and before becoming solid, it will oclude or expel (spit) the same gaseous element.
I recall my jewelry casting texts mentioned dropping a small chunk of aluminum metal into the crucible after Palladium is completely molten and just prior to pouring into the casting mold., I believe pure sodium metal is also used for the same purpose.
The copious borax flux perhaps shields or minimized absorption of gaseous element.
But the aluminum or sodium acts insitu to react, combine with and remove the gas leaving an insoluble compound on the surface or scatred as a smoke or combustion product.
This can presumably eliminate the crater or swiss cheese apperance on palladium.
Wow thanks for the tip I'll try it next time
i believe aluminum absorbs nearby hydrogen when molten too. which is why degassing is important.
might be the same for other molten metals. which is kinda strange but cool.
them pesky hydrogen atoms....
What you mention about the absorption of Hydrogen is why Palladium electrodes are often used in LENR experiments (what used to be called "cold fusion"). After a large amount of H and Deuterium has been saturated into the surface lattice of the metal (by electrolysis), pulsed electromagnetic energy is inputted into the water bath. The added pulsed energy forces the H and its isotope deeper and deeper into the lattice compressing it, and eventually fusion happens randomly (first forming higher isotopes of H, then He). This is where the access heat seen in the experiments come from. Since Pons and Fleischmann first did it 31 years ago, over a hundred labs around the world have replicated it successfully; including the US Navy and NASA. They are both studying it now (NAVSEA Dahlgren labs, and NASA Glenn in Cleveland).
Other successful methods have used Nickel with Hydrogen.
But note the Palladium purity must be very high. A combination of that and not saturating the lattice with enough H, was why some of the first attempts failed in 1990 (M.I.T. being the most publicized) .
@steve windisch very good read! Thanks!
1.OZ of palladium is £2000.00 as of sept 21 , so the blob he made was worth £1000.00
How much were you expecting to get? It seems like washing the AgCl would be very difficult (to get all the Pd out).
after washing all Pd from the AgCl I got another 0.6g Pd
Vidéo professionnelle, j'ai bien aimé le process, veuillez decrire les étapes et merci
👏🏼👏🏼, existe outro substituto pra formic acid?
DMG
@OwlTech thank you .
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desde ya MUCHAS GRACIAS, SALUDOS TOTALES.
2 small things you could change would be to sort out the powder in to a different container so you don't have to keep sifting it and an tumbler with metal balls in it to powder the material.
agree
Im surprised you guys don't have a ball mill for the crushing part, would save you a lot of time and effort 🙂
Yeah we have to put one together
@OwlTech 👌
What is your ratio of lead, silver to material?
Ag to expected Pd (4-5):1, Ag:Pb 1:(15 -20)
Привет! Очень интересная переработка!!! Спасибо! Лайк
Спасибо Олег!
@OwlTech bmb
@OwlTech очень понравилось,молодец
@VALYAI56 Спасибо!
at what ph do you percipitate palladium? When do you add the formic acid? I can only see when you add sodium carbonate but can't see when you add the formic acid. Please tell when you add the acid. Will your palladium contain lead in the end? What if my nitric acid solution contained platinum, do I do the same way as palladium?
Крутой эксперимент! но если бы ты сдал их целиком, то заработал бы ещё примерно 100000р. Видеоролик ценой в сто косарей. Уважуха и лайк!
Спасибо!
@OwlTech Я вот теперь и думаю, мне свои перерабатывать, или лучше сдать как есть, чё то сотку терять как то не комильфо )))
@Valera B только какую цену тебе дадут?
Hello, if we have 1.4 kg of ceramic capacitor, can we extract about 16 g of palladium?
yes if they are the right type
Will you use it for arc reactor ?
I am curious about whether electrolysis is allow to extract the Pd from the solution?🤔
Hmm sounds like a plan
This is not easy to do at all ... This job requires knowledge and experience ... Bravo colleague ... All praise
Thanks a lot
Здравствуйте! Продуваете кислородом или просто компрессором?
компрессором
Спасибо! А я пользовался кислородом.
Great video. I believe I was snipping some mlccs just like those earlier today.
Same here 👍 its the best thing im finding on low grade boards apart from copper
and tantale =)
Good work sir ❤️
Thanks
I love how humans change scraps into beatiful shiny metals
What type of x-ray spectrometer do you use?
innov-x systems
Fun fact : this metal is even more expensive than gold
@Monster 696 no it doesn't.
Capacitor makers: STONKS
@Monster 696 Well, it is done in big facilities to recover Platinum, Palladium and Rhodium from old car catalysers. It pays off, but not so well for Nature. :D
@superman diamput wong njowo iso mrene😂
Yeah there's a fair few metals more expensive than gold. A tiny amount of a few of them are in the phone you are holding. Indium (used in touch screens) is about 10 years off being mined out commercially. Yet it is very difficult to extract and recycle.
Back to back videos, appreciate the effort mate
Cheers pal!
Здорово, все классно и четко,ты скажи а почему после дробления просто в азотку не кинуть ,а или копирование уберете посторонние металлы со шлаком ?
Сова,как всегда на высоте.😉
Спасибо!
什么意思？
Bonjour
Merci pour cette vidéo avec la traduction , qu'elle plaire de tout comprendre
Excelente.
شكرا على العمل الجيد
Result is not bad 🌟 👍 but I expected more from the Bulgarian bC capacitors ... Great video! 👍
yes the 100g test yielded 1.35g
@OwlTech depends a lot on the size of the capacitors, so the bigger the more palladium ... in the blue ones we have decent amount of silver , too so in total not bad at all 😃
@eScrap Channel silver was about 4g when I tested the 100g capacitors so about 40g Ag /kg capacitors
What type of x-ray spectrometer do you use?
innov-x systems
very nice. why don't you use DMG? is it better to use sulphamic acid?
I used the sulphamic acid to precipitate any lead that may be present
What do you do with the generated chemical waste?
This is a laboratory demonstration, garage work.
Does the price of the palladium produced cover the costs?
Наверное много потерь при такой обработки.
Я думаю потери очень маленькие
Fluxing and grinding can be improved at recovery stage
Agree
How much lead to use and is the lead and silver recoverable?
depends on the type and amount of scrap and yes both are recoverable
awesome work... aprox. what is button worth and what do you have invested in time and resorces...
about 900EUR the plastic removal about 45 min, grinding about 1 hour, smelting took about 15 min, cupellation 30min, fine cupelling around 15 min, nitric acid dissolution 1.5hrs, filtration 1hr, precipitation 1.5hrs and washing 1hr., pelleting 5 min, melting 10 min, cleaning 15 min. I used about 3kg Pb, 180g Ag contacts, 0.4l HNO3, 0.8l HCl, 0.4kg NaOH, 0.5kg Na2CO3, borax, sulphamic acid, NaNO2
What kind of machines did these mlcc come from? How old?
impressed by your work, which instrument in your hand to find element analysis of sample at 37:28 :)
XRF gun
At which step is copper and nickel removed?
cupellation
What you add at the time of Cupellation to remove copper and nickel??
lead
Christiaan Schutte - 2021-05-01
This was so amateurly done but love it just shows you you don't need the high tech luxuries to do something just logic and ingenuity. Well done man!
Дмитрий Т - 2021-11-06
@Ciprian Popa Если бедешь так нервничать, то всё-таки придётся вмешатся в ваши выборы😨. Сарказм.
Ciprian Popa - 2021-11-06
@Дмитрий Т You need to let pass some 30 years till you'll be at the level of using sarcasm. Till then stop playing dangerously you kid and don't forget to drink your milk.
hlessiavedon - 2021-11-09
@Ciprian Popa spoken like a 12 year old.
hlessiavedon - 2021-11-09
@Ciprian Popa what exactly is a nippler?