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Potassium reacting with conc. sulfuric acid

Thunderf00t - 2013-08-03

Conc. sulfuric acid is about 98% sulfuric acid by weight and 2 % water.  

This is the reaction of potassium with concentrated sulfuric acid.

The blue green color is probably related to potassium gas (see 'my god its green'
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5hM--wQlOb4


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FiveDeepBreaths - 2013-08-03

"one of the most strange and bizarre reactions I've ever seen." Look who's talkin'.

nriab23 - 2013-08-03

Thank you for this, chemistry has always been my favorite subject of the sciences and seeing this was very cool indeed. :)

Lone Wolf - 2014-05-18

Wow, really beautiful. I love Chemistry! Btw, how long did the reaction last?

Yu-Pu Wang - 2014-10-23

Supposedly, the "flame" comes from the redox reaction between potassium and sulfuric acid. Potassium metal is a strong reducing agent. So in this case concentrated sulfuric acid acts as an oxidant and provides oxygen for potassium to "burn" -- it's like a thermite reaction where Fe2O3 or another metal oxide oxidizes aluminium powder. So there is no atmospheric oxygen needed.

Tom Grunshaw - 2014-11-30

Assuming that potassium is a strong enough reducing agent to reduce the sulphate to S(0), ie, sulphur gas, could you then get hydrogen burning in sulphur to produce H2S?

Yu-Pu Wang - 2014-11-30

I think potassium is strong enough to directly reduce sulfuric acid all the way to H2S.

Tom Grunshaw - 2014-11-30

@Yu-Pu Wang I looked it up, you're right, K+ > K have a value around -3, S -> S2 has value -0.5.
Doesn't look like K burning in oxygen, though, it's be lilac. Plus, the K is reduced to K+ and dissolves in what water there is instantly.
EDIT: No idea why strikethrough is there, it reads what it says through it.

Tom Grunshaw - 2014-11-30

@Tom Grunshaw Created an equation for this theory. No sign of any O2 given off, unless there's some strange SO4(2-) redox I'm not aware of at very low pH/high conc. 8K + SO4(2-) + 10H(+) -> 8K(+) + H2S + 4H2O

kmikl - 2013-08-05

Occasionally, you have to do real work when you're filling in time between those videos. :D

EdEditz - 2013-08-03

Nice prize question: name the reaction going on here. :)

9kuuby9 - 2014-01-02

hydrogen? almost looks like the sun if you take a good look :D

SneakyRabbit1993 - 2013-10-24

well, maybe the reaction releases Oxygen so it burns on its own reaction when there is oxygen to burn off? dunno (: btw sry for my bad english

Critterbot - 2013-08-03

Science, the purest definition of "neato"! :)

zencat999 - 2013-08-03

oh my lack of god! this is very dangerous fun, I love it!

cosmicdust - 2013-08-03

Wow, that reaction would be awesome put to music. Peace

Steve - 2013-08-03

I'm guessing this reaction is actually amazingly complicated, as in lots of different reactions going on at once.

42hamneggs - 2013-08-03

You find the coolest sciency geeky stuff Love it. :)

Mark Isaac - 2015-02-13

exothermic reaction, Oxygen not needed

NujabesGaming - 2013-08-08

Thunder, do you see this reaction having a practical use in space?

Ted Finch - 2013-08-03

A repeated reaction of it's first reaction

BobD1001 - 2013-08-28

I would have been pretty scared to even attempt that reaction in a glass vessel! Must have been one heavy walled flask!

Vlad Tepes - 2013-08-03

That's awesome, TF!

Gareth Tudor - 2013-08-03

That's actually quite a beautiful reaction.

MoldMan - 2013-08-03

yes (assuming that thunderf00t uploaded a 30 fps video)

Mihai - 2013-09-01

Its the Oxygen atoms from the H2O that reacts 2 H2O into H2 + O2. So actually it is oxygen burning there.

PyroTech787 - 2013-08-08

Put it in a blender and find out! :D

Peter Stefurak - 2013-08-03

Thank you Thundef00t for sharing your discoveries with us, it's an honor.

Knowbody - 2013-08-04

No. To produce oxygen from non-oxygen, you're getting into nuclear reactions. Not chemical ones.

lostismyconstent - 2013-08-03

Wow, cool stuff!

Mr. Myxzptlyk - 2013-08-03

Your WDPLAC series is amazing! Make some more!!!

Peter O'Donnell - 2013-08-03

I remember doing this in school. Good times

Ian Wrigley - 2013-08-03

That acidic reaction when you reply with K.

Lars Lauritsen - 2013-08-03

Thats clerly the ONE Ring :)

NeedsEvidence - 2013-08-03

Dark energy! BHWAHAHAHA!

streetmuggedbypolice - 2013-08-04

Well I could explain this if I knew the first thing about chemisty.

BloodfelX - 2013-08-03

I'm pretty sure you just created the One Ring. XD (...From Lord of the Rings.)

With Doom - 2013-08-03

it's...it's the eye of Sauron! it's precious...

Sam Ford - 2013-08-03

THE EYE OF SAURON!

Insert Name - 2013-08-03

Wow I've wanted to see Potassium in acid for a long time, this is epic!

Rian Goossens - 2013-08-03

It looks amazing! Does this effect occur every time? Also if this footage is 1000 frames/second does that mean it's 33 times real time? Can you see the flame without high speed cameras?

MrPolymath0 - 2013-08-03

Potassium reacting with the O4 in the H2SO4?

Adrianmk2208 - 2013-08-03

I love the smell of hydrogen sulfide in the morning :/

Montecation - 2013-08-03

so im assuming the potassium sample was ring shaped going into the reaction, right?

Flanclanman - 2013-08-05

You have the loveliest voice... I could sit here and listen to you talk chemistry all day. That sounded rapey-er than I meant it to...

Jacob Dawes - 2013-08-03

Fantastic reaction! I wonder if you were to put potassium in contact with sulfuric VAPOR if a similar effect would be produced.

Mark Fugate - 2013-09-01

What if the heat from the reaction is knocking some oxygen atoms off of the sulfate ions, which are fueling the flame? Thoughts?

Owen McCauley - 2013-08-03

I love chemistry, and it's great to see that you seem so excited about your laboratory work but I miss you being snarky at religion. What ever happened to Why Do People Laugh At Creationists?

lkvg - 2013-08-03

I can't believe you call that work. You have too much fun! Could the reaction be using oxygen from the H2SO4? I'm no chemist BTW.

ThePeacemakernow - 2013-08-03

reminds me of the sun..

Dickard The Wizard - 2014-01-17

Well, that's incredibly interesting.

Sean buckley - 2013-08-14

Amazing video man.

meazouz - 2013-08-03

That was so beautiful. For some reason it reminded me of the violent events we see in the universe yet this could be a universe on its own! thank you for sharing something you just discovered. I would love to see more.

mikey1978416 - 2013-08-03

THE GREAT EYE WATCHES

ChristopherLee - 2013-08-03

It's reacting to antimatter, are you experimenting with warp drive again TF?