Explosions&Fire - 2024-10-13
Powerful oxidisers are cool, but what about best oxidisers? Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/ExplosionsandFire Subreddit: https://www.reddit.com/r/ExplosionsAndFire/ Discord: https://discord.gg/VR6Fz9g Second Channel: @ExtractionsAndIre Twitter: https://twitter.com/Explosions_Fire Thanks again to the Hasenstab-Riedel lab for the invitation to come and film! https://www.bcp.fu-berlin.de/en/chemie/chemie/forschung/InorgChem/agriedel/index.html A screenshot from this video (approximately 9:29) is published under the Creative Commons Attribution-Share Alike 4.0 International license. I retain the exclusive rights to the rest of the video. I also want to state that I love wikipedia
i was already blown away by seeing actual FOOF in a youtube video, but then you used a car battery to make the one of the most powerful oxidizers ever. pure insanity
A verified youtuber with only 4 likes after 13 hours is crazy
I LOVE YOUR VIDEOS
Goddamn... "pure insanity" is probably the highest praise by Drake! 🥹
Well done, Tom!!! 🤘😫🤘
When Drake says it’s insane…
It’s absolutely insane…
More like pure fun
Well now you’ve done the strongest chemical reaction, on to the weakest nuclear reaction
We emitting particles n stuff
The only thing worse than chlorine fluorides are oxygen fluorides.
Oxygen fluorides are hell.
Dr. Tom is in physics primarily
WE MAKING IT ONTO THE GOVERNMENT ACT LIST WITH THIS ONE!!!
"Have you ever read the film Dune?", while a picture of the video game appears. Beautiful.
That was some nerd comedy gold.
And no mention of Project hail Mary ...
Lol pure beauty 😂
Exactly what I came down here for. Maniac
@@balaclavabob001 Sentient rocks, imagine
“An excess of the elemental fluorine,” and other phrases that should cause you to run away really really fast.
16:01 "we have decided it will work"
That's real german engineering for you!
"The platinum wire might have disconnected"
Chemists, with a multimeter right next to them: [disassembles whole pressure vessel] Nope.
Electronics people: Incoherent screaming
Car people: Fuck, Germany have some nice car batteries
So true! Three for three!
Ikr!, the batteries look like ones for solar
@@zahariburgess3660 ＣＡＲ ＢＡＴＴＥＲＹ ＴＩＭＥ
Those specific jumper cables are really really bad, though. I lived in Germany for a while and those are the standard "gas station jumper cables". The amount of amperage you can get through them is miniscule. Kind of defeats the purpose of getting such a nice battery. I would bet money that was the actual problem.
Being an EE, I noticed the same thing.
I don't think they are used to handling multimeters.... and putting the total battery voltage across that skinny wire without any current limiting circuitry seemed a bit iffy to me...
None of the "chemistry" was done in a bunnings bin filled with spiders/snakes. 0/10
Yea this just don't feel the same
Is it even chemistry then? Chemistry started in Egypt (a land rich in snakes) & stalled out in Europe until snakes could be sourced in from the Pacific & Americas
@@GilTheDragon If climate change goes on and tempreatures rise further. We all can have lands rich in snakes and to chemistry as it was intented to be. The futre us brighter than ever!
@@tegridyfarms6197
If you want the land to be rich in snakes, tell an Indian guy that the government is willing to pay for every snake caught in order to contain the population.
to be fair, the spiders and snakes probably would have died
The only description you really need of this stuff is "Allows asbestos to self-ignite".
This is the honey badger of oxidizers, no fucks are given.
I was shook at "reacts with noble gases"
ClF3 sets fire to ash as well 😂 and concrete!
Our Country sucks. 🏴 can't have Honey Badgers as Emotional Support animals.. . . W⚓️s❕️
Honey Badger of money still immune to it though. ;)
You know you're talking to a Brit when they think a Honey Badger is a large, dangerous animal. 🤣
PtF6 also lacks a picture on wikipedia. so many neat shots, oxygen floating on flourine, platinum halides.
Since this video doesn't appear to be in the public domain (or licensed under a CC-BY-SA or GFDL-compatible license), it cannot be used as a source of images unless they are heavily downscaled to what could be considered fair use. This makes it a fairly poor source of images, unless E&F chooses to upload images from the video to Wikimedia Commons under a compatible license.
Do it do it I engage with doing it
@@oo-bb4qs me too ♥
@@poudink5791 He did himself upload the image of Foof on wikipedia himself
fun fact: a chemical supplier in china once claimed they would sell FOOF AND would fulfill orders up to 10_000L. I was surprised that FOOF wasn't a controlled export from china OR controlled import to the USA.
Long story short. It took a few months of very frequent emailing but I did receive a full refund on my order of 100L of FOOF.
Intra national carriers didn't care what was in the carafe. International carriers cared A Lot.
@@PatrickKniesler They never gave me dimensions or weight, so I'm fairly confident they didn't have a clue how to ship either.
Also the prices they were charging would not cover a 100L 100K vacuum carafe. Half the reason I ordered was to see if they'd even ship that.
Do they still offer it, though?
@@andrewfleenor7459 I don't believe so, but that said I couldn't find the crater of the (ex)facility that tried to produce kilo litres of FOOF at industrial scale, so maybe they're under new ownership & operating smoothly?
What were you trying to do with 100 liters of foof?
A car battery and a reaction that didn't work twice - I'm glad you could bring a touch of shed to this beautiful German lab. Fantastic video!
Must’ve felt like home 😂
Didn't work twice and then worked after having dinner. The dinner is important.
@@Kenionatus or, you know... charging the battery maybe helped.
Lol true. But in fairness, he would've at least checked the battery if doing it in his own lab, at least touching the leads to see the spark!
Just such high level thinking to not test the battery voltage before repeating the experiment, lol. Or better yet, use a cranked up lab power supply to begin with, where they could monitor the current to see when the wire heated and burned!
@@TravisTerrell True! Never forget to touch your tongue with both leads every time you use a car battery.
I don't know much about chemistry, and am really just a casual observer. But I still find the idea of all that complex setup, high tech tools, and tons of combined knowledge juxtaposed with "smack the glassware around with a wooden stick and see what happens" extremely funny.
The stick is a important tool. It safed a lot fingers.
That's what PhD chemistry is like. As an undergrad, you usually have PhD students as supervisors and their conversations with each other often are quite funny.
Hi Mark, what color did your reaction mixture turn today?
Dark green, almost black.
Wasn't it bright pink last week?
Yes, it was. Don't ask me, I'm only the one writing a PhD on it...
That's "agitating the reaction vessel" please.
A stick is highly advanced technology
welcome to the channel
I can't wait to see the wikipedia entry updated with this video as a cited source for what FOOF actually looks like!
Primary source used, Wikipedia editors in shambles.
@@Kenionatus Under rated comment.
@@Kenionatus(citation needed)
@@Kenionatus it'll just get reverted. happens all the time.
@@Kenionatus [original research?] [unreliable source] [dubious]
As someone who has done a lot of tube sealing, I still see seals like those in my nightmares. That's what it looks like when your torch is too hot or you leave it in one place too long. The tube just collapses and makes two little tubes on either side, and once you do that you can't actually seal it any more because the tiny tubes are too strong.
Ampoule sealing nightmares intensify
This entire video was like a nightmare sequence for me.
I felt sorry for the poor, innocent Xenon. It has never hurt anyone and just wants to be left alone.
i mean the formation of xenon fluorides are exothermic somehow
8:28 Tom’s been doing garage chemistry for so long that he forgot how predictable well-designed laboratory chemistry is 😂😂😂
And then the laboratory was cursed by his very presence
amazing what good tools can do
@@Bzorlan So the Pauli Effect can work with chemists as well as physicists?
"if something goes wrong, there's usually some way to cover it up"
With access to the chemicals there ANYTHING can disappear :P
As soon as he said it he was like ahh shit hope the boss/government doesn't watch that apart haha
I saw that one as well XD
That's how you can tell he's a German.
😂😂😂
"Spontaneous ignition with xenon" is not something you hear everyday....
Cryogenic xenon at that.
0:39 "It is also hypergolic with such things as cloth, wood, and test engineers ,..." I don't know who wrote that article, but they deserve a Pulitzer.
The book is "Ignition!: An Informal History of Liquid Rocket Propellants" by John Drury Clark, and it's full of this kind of thing
@@rcxdudeI have the book! There's also a part I'd like to mention, where John D. Clark describes how a rocket that would use DIMETHYLMERCURY was almost fired. Thankfully, it wasn't, and a rocket that only used metallic mercury as the fuel was fired. So much safer!
12:00 Xenon actually has the potential to be used as a safer anesthetic than N2O, but it’s too expensive to be used widely. It’s the only base element with a psychoactive effect
Many other elemental gases are also psychoactive but only when the partial pressure is higher than possible at sea level. For example Nitrogen infamously causes Nitrogen narcosis in divers, and even Helium causes high pressure nervous syndrome at high enough partial pressure.
Xenon is just unusual in that it can be psychoactive at standard temperature and pressure :)
Fuck yes tom is alive lads
He has another channel. It's not like he disappeared for a year.
If you're not subscribed to Extractions and Ire, go subscribe. Great videos over there - eg. extracting calcium from bones, extracting cadmium from batteries, and the legendary Cubane series.
. . . Survived the Yellow Chem. then ?
@@RedTail1-1 I know. I am a regular viewer of said Ire
"so rapidly hypergolic that no ignition delay has ever been measured" really sold me on this stuff. Also if it touches the ground or water it will explode, its like someone made it up, but its real.
Yup. It sounds like "a plot chemical" someone invented to get them out of a pickle because they earlier invented something unrealistically resilient.
well, german nazi made it in 1939. you know shit it real when nazi want to use something as a weapon, but then abandon the idea because "its to dangerous to work with".
That quote was from the book Ignition by John Drury Clark, highly recommended.
He left out the best part of Clark's description of ClF3: "It can be kept in some of the ordinary structural metals — steel, copper, aluminum, etc. —because of the formation of a thin film of insoluble metal fluoride which protects the bulk of the metal, just as the invisible coat of oxide on aluminum keeps it from burning up in the atmosphere. If, however, this coat is melted or scrubbed off, and has no chance to reform, the operator is confronted with the problem of coping with a metal-fluorine fire. For dealing with this situation, I have always recommended a good pair of running shoes."
@@okupukupu, well, that guy is smart. there is no way extinguish that thing, except for waiting till it use out all the ClF3. the most important thing ppl should understand, if they ever going to get close to that substance, is that it sets concrete on fire and human body is much easier to set on fire than concrete.
Ignoring all the cool chemistry going on, I work in genomics and if a youtuber who does shed-genomics got in touch and wanted to come from the other side of the world to watch what I do on a daily basis and film it I would feel absolutely ecstatic and validated. Those PhD students must feel awesome. Hope they all went out on the beers after.
The phrase 'shed genomics' fills me with a deep and primal fear.
What about the shed at the petting zoo ?
@@vdate Shed genomics Youtuber? The Thought Emporium!
My first thought of "shed genomics" was also "The Thought Emporium" lol, he inserted a gene for lactase into a virus that's used in gene editing, then took it as a pill and cured his lactose intolerance for a good while lol. Literally genetically modified his own intestinal cells!
@@revenevan11 Alright, on the strength of that, I'll upgrade to 'combination of respect and deep and primal concern.'
Awesome to see that Tom is enjoying the good old sterni at 29:26
Its one of the cheapest beers that you can get in germany and many describe it as filthy dishwater (disgusting) but I call it filthy dishwater (affectionate)
Good that you experienced some german uni culture
he drinks vb i think he can stand germany's finest
12 thousand years of civilization and technological progress, a quite well equipped lab handling some of the most dangerous chemicals know to man.
And what they use to poke it? a wood stick.
A freaking wood stick.
The fact that they didn't poke it with their finger is in fact a good sign that evolution is working.
jesus, the wood stick was just to knock condensation off the outside of the reaction vessel without changing its temperature. Is everybody in these comments just making a joke, or are you all stupid? Asking for a friend.
@@TristanBWV and for some time, there was licking involved in chemistry too
@@jurajvariny6034 Not the tongue! XD
@@jurajvariny6034 Licking the samples is still occasionally a thing in field geology.
If you want to get into even more extreme chemistry, there used to be a lab in Caltech that would react fluorine gas with pure hydrogen at Mach 3, then set it on fire. It was the most terrifying wind tunnel design report I had ever read.
Why?
Was that the tripropellant rocket engine thing?
Must have been fun to watch. XD
@@xWood4000 I'd like to second this why
@@WhiteWolf-lm7gj Third..... WHAT!?!
"The procedure Niklas was following specifically mentioned a car battery, and so he went out and got a car battery with jumper leads for this experiment."
This is the most German thing I've heard.
If you carefully study Tom's videos, you might see a pattern of "The procedure calls for X, but I believe Y is fine" and start to appreciate a well written procedure. :D
When I write down a procedure and something sounds quirky, it's usually because I tried something different and it didn't work.
The thing is, car batteries are readily available and cheap, compared to a lab-level power supply that can deliver this much power. Most "cheaper" power supplies can only go up to like a few amps, which might not be enough to really burn the platinum wire (depending on thickness and temperature around it). I am assuming you absolutely do need the 100-200 amps you can easily get out of a car battery, which is 20 times cheaper than a power supply to boot.
It is a surprising tool if you hear it for the first time, but it absolutely makes sense I think.
@@Bennici yup. you just have to remember to CHARGE it first.
@@Bennici they could have plugged it directly into mains XD but seriously, AC is less prone to arcing than DC, if they had a short somewhere in all the stainless steel stuff, that with car battery would be ...interesting.
@@jurajvariny6034 You forget the subtle but important difference that unlike the car battery, the mains can actually kill you
places elemental fluorine and oxygen in a tube and gives it a tan
jumpstarts fluorine with a car battery
What these here super reactive elemental gases need desperately is MORE ENERGY!
I know what's wrong with it
ain't got no gas in it
@@recurvestickerdragon that... is actually pretty much what happened here. They literally forgot to charge the battery.
20:29 Nearly a century later and our methods have evolved to hitting things with our technologically superior sticks.
That thumbnail is the mother of all "what could possibly go wrong?"
To top that, you'd need plutonium hemispheres and a screwdriver.
The fact that FOOF sounds like a french slang for the lady bits made the video even more funny to me.
It's a slightly stronger burning sensation , but yeah.
Could we make some FOOFOON next ?
It is exactly slang for ladies bits in (Belgian) Dutch.
As someone who is not a chemist, the thought of oxidising oxygen is insane 25:56
Tbh i think its also scary to every chemist
as someone who is a chemist it is also insane
It’s insane to anybody who knows anything about Chemistry. I’m just a high school AP Chem student and that blew my mind too.
Chemistry was always a massive weak spot for me in sciences vs say physics (thus my AE undergrad) but I had to take JUST enough to suspect it’s even scarier for those that know more about chemistry. Until you get to the niche of chemists that work with rocket fuels who probably sigh whistfully at the missed potential of multi-fluorine chemistry if only didn’t do its job of energetically destroying things SO well that it also tends to destroy the things (and potentially people) trying to use it… a special lot who do important work, those guys.
Also not a chemist, but became interested after reading the "Things I will not work with" series. I've since learned a bit more about chemistry, mostly that this is as close to those reactions as I ever want to get.
25:25 that is the most i've seen him excited over a yellow product so far
22:47 his mere presence turning it yellow
Pilots: Any landing you can walk away from is a good landing.
Chemists: Any reaction you can walk away from is a good reaction.
FOOF rings a bell as one of the “things I won’t work with” chemicals from Derek Lowe’s list on his blog In The Pipeline…
Alongside chlorine trifluoride, yes... 😂
"Being a high energy oxidizer, dioxygen difluoride reacted vigorously with organic compounds, even at temperatures close to its melting point. It reacted instantaneously with solid ethyl alcohol, producing a blue flame and an explosion. When a drop of liquid 02F2 was added to liquid methane, cooled at 90°K., a white flame was produced instantaneously, which turned green upon further burning. When 0.2 (mL) of liquid 02F2 was added to 0.5 (mL) of liquid CH4 at 90°K., a violent explosion occurred."
It was because of that post that I named my cat FOOF. He's not a good namesake, as he's not the right color or the right amount of angry. But he's fluffy, so I consider it good enough.
Yep it's one of the things he covered in the "Things I Won't Work With" list.
Derek Lowe's "Things I Won't Work With" section is a Baedecker tour taking in everything you NEVER want to be up close and personal with in an uncontrolled setting. Or in some cases, even a controlled setting.
It's interesting to note that the Nazis found ClF3 too hot to handle. Yes, the same Nazis who deployed a hydrogen peroxide rocket plane IN COMBAT. Meanwhile, the Americans made a ton of the stuff, let it leak, and had fun watching concrete and gravel burn like petrol.
By the way, there's a French video featuring some suave jazz backing music, showing what happens when you let your inner pyromaniac loose with ClF3. Enjoy when you find it.
Oxidising the oxygen, now that truly wasn't on my 2024 bingo card.
dioxygenyl is fucking cursed and should not exist. chlorine trifluoride was bad enough, but oxidizing oxygen?
"beating chlorine trifluoride" - uhh, is that a good idea? 😅😅
19:55 I believe "it would be a problem, indeed" is German for "it would be very exciting" which I believe is Journal of Energetic Materials for "we'll need new glassware"
13 minutes in and they're jump-starting the fluorine with a car battery. I love this channel
And they did, in fact, beat lightly on the container of chlorine trifluoride with a stick.
Hi Tom, Tom here, just wanted you to know I have made DiBoron Tetrafluoride. I manufactured it on a commercial scale (WHOLE kilograms lol) with the guidance of some insanely smart people. Its also toxic, carcinogenic, pyrophoric, and generates HF, but cost $350 per gram at scale. Doubt you could make it, but I could point you in the right direction (to a limit) if you decided you wanted to.
I love that you were geeking out so hard with the other PhDs that you completely forgot you were filming. Makes this so much more legit.
i have 44 years old, my high school was a chemistry specialty (In Argentina we have this high school called industial school) and i see the ptF6 - Xe reaction when i have 17 years in black and white video. really is the first time seen the colors. Thank you very much dude!!
How good did it feel to walk in to another university and introduce yourself as Dr. Explosions and Fire?
I’m pretty sure Doctor Explosions & Fire is a character in the Marvel Cinematic Universe
Florian Krause working in a Fluorine lab is some real nominative determinism.
St. Florian is the patron saint of firefighters XD
Further proof that the color yellow means that you did something that you shouldn't
Thank you for this wild adventure in chemistry!
The professional patience exhibited by your laboratory hosts was commendable. It is refreshing to watch people who are very good at what they do persevere against obstacles.
My favorite Australian chemist that routinely "plays" with explosives posted on a Sunday morning on my drive home from work? Hell yeah!
Man saturday nightshift is the worst thing I have heard of
@@heh2393 it's not so bad if you're used to it/work in a profession where it's just, a common thing. For reference, I work in healthcare at a hospital, and honestly, a Saturday nightshift is often among the best shifts (since no managers in the morning, and it tends to be fairly quiet, relative to the weekday shifts). And it definitely beats a holiday nightshift lol, regardless of the day of the week of the holiday.
Or at least, is it's among the best shifts for those that routinely work nightshift lol, since I know nightshift in general isn't great for everyone
@@ryanc473 I hope you didn't watch the vid while driving though, or you risk having to stay even longer at your place of work :P
@@chemisthajo only realized the upload when I got home, but immediately watched it right after lol
PtF6: "Brother, may I have some electron?"
PtF6 doesn't ask
PtF6 punches you in the face 👊💥 so hard that electrons just go flying off you. Then it picks up your electrons off the floor and says I’LL BE TAKING THESE.
"its beautiful"
Tom: "😅 ...its a horrible yellow"
well, in this case its really "horrible yellow", because if something go wrong that yellow liquid can be last thing you ever see...
I like how he casually mentions they're accidentally oxidizing oxygen
@ExplosionsAndFire - 2024-10-13
Check out these channels for future fluorine videos too: https://www.youtube.com/@AdvancedTinkering
https://www.youtube.com/c/eliasexperiments
@Chuck_Huckler - 2024-10-13
Brother you didn't upload the FOOF image to wikipedia
@RealSlowLike - 2024-10-13
Now that you've done hexaflouride, try concentrated peroxide
@dwgray9000 - 2024-10-13
Good choice of quote at 0:37
@Salt_and_Peroxide - 2024-10-13
yep ok no issue mr . thomas the tank engine
@-r-495 - 2024-10-13
Maybe its the stick.
Magic wood stick for yellow chem.