Thy Labs - 2023-05-29
Potassium ferrate is an interesting oxidizing agent that few of you have likely heard about. It is a dull black looking powder but it is a stronger oxidizing agent than potassium permanganate. When you only want to light things on fire this oxidizing agent is not the best choice. One molecule of K2FeO4 Will release one oxygen molecule at best. In solution this stuff is magic. Get a 7% discount from laboratoriumdiscounter by using the code "THYLABS2024" Support me on patreon for even crazier experiments: Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/thyzoid Discord: https://discord.gg/UrjAt44HWH Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/thyzoyd Twitter: https://twitter.com/thyzoid1 TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@thylabs Reddit: https://www.reddit.com/r/THYZOID/
Great! I've had a long-standing desire to create a video about potassium ferrate. However, I often find myself getting sidetracked with other video ideas, which unfortunately, don't receive many views 🤬
i am still shocked with how little views your newer videos receive. hope it works out better soon!
You can buy potassium ferrate in over the counter products. The barium salt is insoluble so it's very easy to precipitate out of solution
That wound seal stuff has ferrate in it
@@chemistryofquestionablequa6252 Yeah that's the stuff. I found it at cvs before. Never try to use it to close wounds though. Maybe I should get some and try it on my next cut and let you guys know how it works
@@PoorMansChemist Tried it at work when i got cut on stainless steel. It works alright but you gotta add quite a bit. Makes a scab and only stings a little bit but it works well enough for me!
@@Rhodanide Cool!!! I will have to try that.
@@PoorMansChemist don’t get hurt dude lol
Very nice, I've always wanted to try making ferrate! You could try mixing it with a few other fuels (metal powders, sulfur, etc.) to see how it performs.
i would but then we got the issue that i´m in germany
and i've wanted to do a video about ferrate too XD
Awesome video! such an interesting substance
Super! Thank you very much!
Very cool video never heard of that molecule K(feO4).
I always found interesting the stability of the ammonium salts of transition metal oxyanions, they decrease the stronger the oxyanion gets:
-Ammonium chromate/dichromate: flammable, burns if ignited
-Ammonium permanganate: explosive, detonates if ignited
-Ammonium ferate: Not stable, cannot be formed
maybe the reason why you didn't get any flammable reactions with it is due to mixture ratios being wrong or the amount you have is impure. maybe try different mixtures of things, such as pure carbon and sulfur or ground up magnesium or aluminum, solid reducing agents which can be mixed in fine with it.
Very nice chemistry...
Just one question, is iron capable of going all the way to the +8 oxidation state like its lower relatives on the periodic table, rhutenium and osmium?
This FeO4 should be a volatile solid which corrodes and stains everything....
Probably highly toxic with vapours that could blind you....
Btw: Magan accumulates in the brain and causes Parkinson like symptoms and the ting is that traces are allways left, even solely on the fact that everything is soluble in everything in very tiny ammounts. It only depends whether this matters (iirc). I think an antidote is 4-aminosalicylic acid (or para-.. instead of 4-.. it's the same) an aspirin derivate with an amine group at a certain position
Thank You :-) afaik, a chelate for iron is green tea. I can't tell whether they are clinically relevant (at which doses) but notice the beta-amyloid plaque degrading effects. They were according to a german news report relevant because someone had this genetically induced accumulation at his heart and had to drink this daily. However afaik, there's a difference between the "normal" plaque and the alzheimers and it is afaik an abnormal folding (i.e. none, it's planar) but double check any of my claims anyway and better in advice with a Doc/m.d.
Great video, I imagine I will be trying to make some if all you need is red iron (iii) oxide/hydroxide, bleach and koh
I'd like to see iodide pentoxide 🤔
making it is easy. isolating a high purity product is the hard part
The stuff preforms similar to bismuthates
Could you show us some nitrile chemistry?
eventually.
What makes it a stronger oxidizer than potassium permanganate if all of the oxidation reactions potassium permanganate performs it's better at?
simply because you can´t burn things as nicely with it a chemical must not be mistaken as a weaker oxidizing agent. ferrate simply won´t give off much oxygen but it is still a very strong oxidizing agent
Очень интересная штука. Я его пытался раньше электролизом получать и чуть не сдох от паров щёлочи
Did it work out anyways?
@@THYZOID50/50. Феррат натрия образовался, но выделить из раствора мне его не удалось
@@BossOfThisHouse at least it worked a little. even if you could not isolate it
Idea: make a super-iron battery with it. (I would leave a link to the wikipedia article but YT flags those as spam)
post the link. i approved you
Can it be used to make better termites?
Perhaps, but unfortunately pyrotechnical mixtures with strong oxidizers are banned here.
@@experimental_chemistryFirst they love using it, and now they make a prohibition against having fun with incendiaries... I can't understand some people...
/j
Germany allows ownership of perchlorates now, or did you get a business license? Mercury perchlorate sounds nasty.
only Na and K perchlorate are restricted at a concentration of >40%. all other perchlorates including perchloric acid are perfectly fine
@@THYZOID that's cool, I'm surprised they didn't ban ammonium for too. There are some really cool metal complexes like tetraamine copper perchlorate and nickel aminoguanidine perchlorate you could make.
@@chemistryofquestionablequa6252 right ammonium perchlorate is completely restricted. i forgot about that one but otherwise there should not be any exceptions. most complexes when explosive are also banned
@@THYZOID that's just sad. I got a pound of ammonium perchlorate from Amazon here.
@THYZOID - 2023-05-29
The cubane monocarboxylic acid bulk project is soon going to start! It was extremely expensive so if you want to feel free to support me on patreon. I´ll do it anyways though and the video will be public. https://www.patreon.com/thyzoid
@hicbirsey6252 - 2023-05-29
Yay cube
@MattB1792 - 2023-06-01
Poor Tom. everyone tries to beat him.