Extractions&Ire - 2017-10-02
Another episode of me using EnergyUnleased/AllChemystery's ideas. Subscribe to him: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCWbbidIY4v57uczsl0Fgv7w Also thanks to Dornier335A for the thoughts on this process. In summary, I feel this is the superior method when you want like less than 50g calcium cyanamide. If you want more than 50g, the urea/calcium oxide method is better. The filtration step doesn't scale well, while the urea melt can be scaled up fairly easy, assuming you have a big enough paint tin bucket, and you sacrifice some purity of the final product (which doesn't really affect anything) for the increased speed of the reaction. Music: 'Happy Bee', Royalty free music by Kevin MacLeod 'Love7', from Soundcloud 'user18081971', AphexTwin's unconfirmed/confirmed song dump site.
Sheer comic genius!
What where the measurements of the ingredients of this reaction?
I'm sure this is a bad question, but to avoid the HCN (or just the extra step), couldnt you have just used CaCO3?
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G'day, mate, from England. Keep up your interesting chem vids.
Hey, thanks for stopping by, glad you found them interesting!
Thanks for the shout out!!! ill feature your channel on my homepage and return the favour! good to see you trying again. there is so much potential experimentation with tetrazoles it is just too good to ignore. funnily enough i had just began to prefer the other method. the ammonia sux but it's easy to get a batch done in a few hours rather than waiting for filtering and stuff to dry. i guess having an electric furnace helps too.
and you arent the only one that had the problem with the steel tins melting- my very first attempt i did the exact same thing and since i had air blowing in from the bottom i couldnt save anything. it all blew away in little orange sparks.
even after removal of Na ions you will probably notice a tiny amount of CN contamination after the pyrolysys once you use acid in the AQB. not 100% sure why though since i used excess CaCl2 to use up all the sodium and thoroughly rinsed it.
the filtering i did was done using cloth. hugely insoluble voluminous precipitate and massive volumes of water are unfortunately part of this. i recrystallised mine from a few litres of boiling hot water. it does form little flat plates which look nice in solution but dry to a white powder.
i believe it was rosco bodine who thought of that washer idea.
The potential is too much to ignore, exactly. And I only have about a month left of my Honours degree, and that's all the time i'll have access to the NMR. The NMR gives me a good chance at working out what went wrong if I have the same problems last time. So I want to make some nice large amount of 5-ATZ, confirm it is pure by NMR and then i'm set for all reactions in the future, once i'm super sure of the starting material.
The hole must've happened right near the end, if it had happened earlier I swear I would've lost it all as well. Guess air blowing over super hot steel really allows it to rust like no tomorrow. Gotta be hot and fast really. Electric furnace is the way to go, without having that moving air you don't rust it as much.
I'll be careful about the CN- still, thanks for the warning!
Ah, I don't mind giving you the credit, he wont know :P I give him enough credit in another videos haha
Really glad to see the videos still coming!!
Could you explain the sodium ion presence reaction where hydrogen cyanide is produced?
Calcium slop is the bane of my existence, I swear
great content as always
😂 you legend.
KNO3 because I can. LMFAO!
I just discovered your videos and I cannot believe you haven't taken off till now. Keep them coming!!!
he did take off, but then youtube deleted his channel. then they nearly did it again. ):
Hey Tom what was the amount of NaCO3 you wound up using? 132g?
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have you ever read the book primary's? Hard to come by but LOTS of interesting explosives in there with quite a bit of tetraazole info. also, you ever hear of isocyanogen tetrabromide?
I haven't read it, any suggestion where I could come across it?
I looked it up after reading you comment last week (slow reply, sorry!) and wow yeah. The tetraazide looks amazing. Definitely a possibility once we have some tetrazole!
Extractions&Ire if you want I can send you some pretty books, just ask and I'll give you my email and we can go from there.
Extractions&Ire that or you can go through the process of paying like $100 bucks lol
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Cyanate= OCN
Fulminate= ONC
THERE IS A DIFFERENCE!!!
Pyromaniacs of the world unite
What would happen if you pyrolize pyrolize the isocyanuric acid first before the displacement with the calcium salt?
Can you get straight sodium cyanide from the massive amount of white solid? You said it produces some if you leave it as a byproduct but can you get a sizable amount? I've been wanting to make some for purifying some gold but I can't find any ferrocyanide in my area.
Edit:"boiling hot litre of semen"
electrotoxins That would be interesting. Also need it for refining some gold.
Possibly, but I doubt it will produce much, as the reaction isn't really set out to work (as Aussie Chemist says above, you really need a reducing agent there). Using the same hot conditions you can make cyanide, I believe using carbon? i've seen videos about it, I think NurdRage and maybe Chemplayer did that??
Cyanate shouldn't turn into cyanide unless a reducing agent is present.
oops, I meant to say synthesis video, I just watched nurdrages vid but I think it would be very entertaining to see cyanide made in the Adelaide suburbs, in buckets and paint tins lol
I could make sodium cyanide from cyanuric acid, that's a good suggestion on how I can use the remaining 1.8kg cyanuric acid I now have lying around. However, I don't really have a need for cyanide right now. If something comes up and I need to make some, this would probably be a good route, but if I don't have a use for it, it's a big safety risk for not much payoff. Even storage of them isn't very friendly, slow release of hydrogen cyanide... so it's a good suggestion, interesting chemistry but probably a no from me for now
Extractions&Ire I don't blame you in the least.
You've come a long long way from the exp and fire days, huh? Good job, keep posting, I learn more and more each day and, like I said, you've really stepped up your chem game. Idk if u have any books related to your primary interest (I presume, that is), but science madness has a decent library and they have the chem of powder and explosives available, free of charge. It's complete too, as I have a printed version within reach. Others keep a bible on their nightstand, but this was closer to my faith than that
Yes but only if there is a reducing agent present. Cyanuric acid will react with a base to form the corresponding cyanate salt. In the presence of elemental carbon and high heat, this cyanate will convert to cyanide and carbon dioxide. Note that this also works with urea in place of cyanuric acid. NurdRage has a video where he produces it.
Bro Cyanuric Acid It a Lot Easy to Make Triazine! Show Use How to Remove The OH Group to Hydrogen
If you could make your shed look any more like a back yard meth lab I would be shocked. I think the liberal use of soda bottles and random, dirty glassware laying about really completes the look. Maybe also put up a few pictures of your cousins, loose some teeth. You know. Go full hillbilly. :)
That's not to say I don't appreciate home chemistry. I'd just be sure that you video document everything you make...even breakfast. Aussie cops don't seem to be the most understanding or patient.
Haha I'm onto making my 3rd forge I should become a you tuber!! Yeah the first one was massive and got far too hot. Pretty badass when your firebricks melt.
Second one I went with gas instead of leafblower+coal and it's easier to temperature control except my cementing was crap and it turned to dust.
Third one I'm probably going to pay a huge sum of money to send cement via the postage system. ugh.
If you make a forge but don't make a youtube video about it, have you really made a forge? :P
How hot did the gas burner furnace get?? That sounds cool. Cement through the post though.... gross
The gas burner got to 1100C at the minimum to melt ~10kg of copper wire. I'm not sure about hot spots. The coal and leaf blower got hotter in the hot spots I think judging from the glass like material and melted brick.
Yeah but I found an interesting company that really emphasise that you can send literally anything. Somebody used them to post a sedated lion. Bet that took a lot of postage stamps. Poor postage covered lion.
You should be aware that the UK government has just announced a change in the terrorism laws in the UK.
It is to outlaw the sale of strong acids and alkalis, particularly sulphuric acid, both justified by a recent spate of acid attacks associated with robbery, but also because strong sulphuric acid may be used to make IEDs. Though most terror bomb attacks have used organic peroxides as the main ingredient. It is therefore very likely that sale of hydrogen peroxide will also be banned. The manufacture of any explosive substance without a licence has been illegal in the UK for many years.
The new laws maybe understandable, though misguided, as there is nothing to stop the robbers switching to using fuels such as petrol to obtain the same effect.
Very much more disturbing is the intention to make viewing more than once, any material that might be of use to terrorists can result in a fifteen year prison sentence,( It was already illegal to download such material). I believe that this will cover almost all YouTube and other internet videos that cover the chemistry of energetic chemistry or the manufacture of toxic chemicals, such as cyanides. The interpretation of this law is so wide and the penalties are so severe, that I doubt many in the UK will risk looking at such chemistry videos, including yours. You can expect all chemistry video to disappear from YouTube in the near future.
Again I think this new law will make very little difference to terrorist protection, as I doubt the terrorists need lessons in IED manufacture. In any case European terrorists have now moved on to using more prosaic weapons, such as knives, cars and heavy goods vehicles to kill innocent people.
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William Ackerson - 2018-08-08
1:38 Boys, I think we have an Australian on our hands...