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My manganese heptoxide cleanup was a mess

NileBlue - 2019-06-14

This is a follow-up to the video on my main channel: https://youtu.be/2BZGjycR7YM

In that video, I made the unstable and strong oxidizer called manganese heptoxide. When I was done though, I had a lot of manganese and acid waste that I had to deal with.

I initially planned to be done after isolating the waste, but as the last minute, I decided to try melting it. I don't consider that to be part of the waste processing though, and it's more of an experiment on its own.

In general, I don't recommend heating waste because it can sometimes be dangerous and it can also generate toxic fumes. 

Nile talks about lab safety:  https://youtu.be/ftACSEJ6DZA

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You should do a video on your waste drawer.
How big is it.
Whats the worst in it.
What happens if certain stuff inside mixed.
How would a company deal with it.
How much would the company charge.
How you could dispose of it yourself.

Edit: You could do an entire series of industrial chemistry and the waste produced plus how its dealt with. It Would be a lot of content for you and it would be like the show How Its Made but the chemical side of manufacturing.

CPCH - 2020-10-02

@ding dong the Orange witch is gone you can teach how to build it, but you can teach using the same one that have the government is like something copyright, but im pretty sure you can build a new one if you are smarth enough, the problem is you can start a fking ww3 :v

Davin Abiel Ginting - 2020-10-29

@That One Dude Yes🤣🤣

Free vbucks - 2020-12-26

Easy answet: his worst waste is basically uranium. Not kidding.

ATLHooligan - 2021-01-05

Shut up

TissuePaper - 2021-01-06

@ding dong the Orange witch is gone any idiot can buy a nuclear engineering textbook online.

There's no good reason to squirrel away knowledge. There's no such thing as "dangerous knowledge", only dangerous people.

3892 - 2019-06-15

Chemist makes pee from toxic waste

OwMyLehg - 2020-05-08

kemist

Joseph Hayden - 2020-09-21

@Vikram Krishnan yes

Mario Perbellini - 2020-12-26

@Kelsey Mixer i don’t know if it was on purpose, but it’s sad nobody got the homestuck reference

Kelsey Mixer - 2020-12-28

@Mario Perbellini hee hee, some probably did

Matthew Brough - 2021-01-08

@Daniel A Freeman I had to unlike to keep the 69, stay strong soldier

Nincadalop - 2019-06-15

NileRed: "We must be careful to dispose of this properly."
NileBlue: "But first, what if we burn it?"

Javeter Hoax - 2020-12-31

Mm

Javeter Hoax - 2020-12-31

77 you'll l

Javeter Hoax - 2020-12-31

Okokok m m7jlm

kookeekwisp - 2019-06-15

Shouldn't a cleanup channel be called "NileGreen"?

go away - 2020-12-21

Nile Red and Nile Blue are actually existing dyes.

Frenzy Games - 2020-12-23

NileClean

peri - 2020-12-26

why are the replies like this

Grace Dell - 2021-01-06

@mr_sowong haha 😐

Rastaman193 - 2021-01-07

@mr_sowong i dont know if that joke aged horribly or perfectly

B0BBYL33J0RD4N - 2019-06-14

I think that a series of 'Nile Red Cleanup' Would be extremely interesting. Would absolutely watch each of them.

Raspberry Mint - 2020-10-10

Nile blue always cleaning up after nile red

Jumz Brugs - 2020-10-17

I don't want to be the 1000th like buuuuuut 999 was too tempting 😂

AstralHeart - 2021-01-01

Yessssss, It's also just as entertaining as the original video. How to clean up toxic waste is very important

Orpa Taveras - 2021-01-06

This iiisss the clean up channel silly, nile red is the main channel. He puts the extras and cleanup here on nile blue

B0BBYL33J0RD4N - 2021-01-06

@Orpa Taveras It wasnt always a cleanup channel, it had cleanup, but it was more of a second channel in its own right.

When he says something akin to 'I am thinking about making a series where I cleanup my NileRed projects' that is because he didnt make a solid Nile Blue cleanup video for each Nile Red sciencey one, and he was only just contemplating it.

Love that he took the idea seriously though. Its always cool to watch the Nile Red and see him set aside a waste material, then watch the Blue and see how he deals with it.

A Barbarian Horde - 2019-09-28

Nile the Musical:
NileRed: "What is this?"
NileBlue: "Looks like piss"
NileRed: "Smells like piss"
NileBlue: "Look at this, I made piss"

The actual Cheshire Cat - 2020-10-18

ok?

The actual Cheshire Cat - 2020-10-18

@Janneth Molina i really didnt ask

Want - Diverse Content - 2020-12-16

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Shiruvuia Animak - 2020-12-27

@The actual Cheshire Cat Sweeney Todd

Shiruvuia Animak - 2020-12-27

Love the Sweeney Todd reference :3

Sadpan - 2019-06-15

This video is already on the Wikipedia page for manganese heptoxide not even 3 hours after uploading lmao

ILitYouUp - 2021-01-06

@Justin Koenig how about trying not to be an asshole

JunkExplorer - 2021-01-08

@Justin Koenig One more for the inbox :)

Zero123 Alpha - 2021-01-09

@Justin Koenig I have come here only to necropost. The way you present your argument is the difference between being a jackass, and having a good counterargument. I know from experience

B B - 2021-01-11

@Justin Koenig "leave my inbox alone" instead of being a dick you could have read for 1 minute and know there's an option to not receive notifications for a certain comment thread. Stop being rude, go to therapy, it helps with anger.

B B - 2021-01-11

Also the fact this dude hasn't changed for a whole year and still acts like this towards strangers? Yikes

Lizlodude - 2019-10-05

I love how every waste disposal video I've seen here so far has ended with "this would be the end, but I got curious..."

Allan Roberto - 2020-10-18

Thats whats science is all about

cyclopsboi - 2019-06-14

In a way I feel like dealing with the waste is the more important part of the chemistry videos.

The Keeper - 2019-06-15

@Γιώργος Κοκκινάκης Pour it over the neighbor then :P

Eri C. Lion - 2019-06-15

Definitely
One needs to learn how to dispose of the waste or how to make it more manageable


Some years ago I made experiments with copper sulfate, and after that I stored everything
Didn't use them for very long, so wanted to dispose the CuSO4 waste, but it was very dangerous to just pour it into the sink or to the ground, and it took me quite a while to finally find out a method
Having a place where to see that information is extremely important

Demons Headshot - 2019-06-17

@Eri C. Lion and you wont tell us how you disposed of it?

SuperAlvin - 2019-06-18

Demons Headshot yeah ikr

Eri C. Lion - 2019-06-18

@Demons Headshot first I reduced the copper sulfate to iron sulfate dipping steel wool in the CuSO4 solution. The iron in the wool replaces the copper in the solution, and viceversa, turning the mixture green.
Copper wool can be disposed of very easily, but even when iron sulfate is much less dangerous I wasn't confident. Somewhere I read I could pour it down into the sink, but to make sure I asked my chemistry teacher. He told me I could evaporate the water to recover the iron sulfate powder, and that I could either bury it deep or, a bad advice as he called it, seal it and throw it into the garbage since it would go to the city's landfill.
Ended up burying it, around a quarter of a pound of FeSO4.

Enigura - 2019-06-14

I think it's really cool that you're making these videos. Could you take it a step further and explain WHY some steps are necessary? And what you're trying to accomplish by then end? (ie: what would be considered "safe" and why). And what do you do with the compounds that you simply can't deal with? Who disposes of them? What kind of services do you need access to to deal with it?

Jacob - 2019-06-15

the main goal is to make things environmentally friendly so he can pour it down the drain or through it in a trash bin but when this isn't possibly he just wants to get everything to a solid from and compact it as much as possible to make it easier to store.

KimuTone - 2020-10-25

Would you rather inhale chlorine gas and bite sodium metal so you die of intoxication while your mouth melts, or just take a little bit of table salt?
You convert Cl and Na to NaCl, that way you transform two toxic and dangerous elements into an inocuous compound that you can even consume.
The end goal is to transform a dangerous species into safe species, safe enough to be poured down the drain, or to store it without it emitting toxic vapors, spontaneously ignite, or anything like that.
Usually when you can't pour it down the drain, it's burned and decomposed into safer elements released into the atmosphere (usually passing it through filters that catch nasty stuff making it also safer) or pay a company that has the proper machinery and reactives to deal with whatever kind of waste to turn it into saf stuff.

Edit. You shouldn't consume table salt made in a lab nor anything made in a lab, or anything that has been in a lab for that matter. There could be potentially toxic (or worse) species hanging around inside a lab glassware or tables that you absolutely don't want inside of you. This is very important.

Arthur - 2019-06-15

3:27 "After several minutes, the colour started changing and it became kind of brown, so I swapped it for a nicer, white background" Lol

Chris P - 2020-04-12

@Gustavo6046 Yes, that's completly true but so what ? He didn't get the joke, got upset just seing word "racism" in this case for no reason, wrote stupid shit and claimed other people wrote something dumb. Who cares if he directly called someone dumb or not, he was being an ass either way.

Ezekiel C - 2020-09-21

@Chris P imagine calling someone an ass because they have a developmental disorder that makes it harder for them to catch when someone is joking or not. for fuck's sake, grow up.

Daniel Mayerhofer - 2020-12-30

@Aezakmi woooosh

Aezakmi - 2020-12-30

@Daniel Mayerhofer buddy, my man, dude, broski, i understand I missed a joke. idk how it was supposed to be a good joke but it certainly was some sort of joke

Aezakmi - 2020-12-30

@Chris P you must be fun at parties. I didn’t get upset in my og comment, I was more confused then offended.

Adam Christensen - 2019-06-14

6:16 Welcome to NileASMR

3892 - 2019-06-15

That's what I was thinking lmao

NK_20 - 2019-06-15

lol same

Konrad Kubinski - 2020-03-14

When mom discovers your waste drawer

Seth Cordes - 2020-01-04

I like to imagine the waste liquid was synthetic pee you accidentally made

Wishing weezy - 2020-01-06

Lol seth?? Can huelp my channel

Derryl C - 2019-06-19

2:50 "I'm not entirely sure, though, what exactly was causing the color."
...says the guy who effortlessly describes complex multivariate reactions that are 12 levels beyond the rest of us

『baitmaster76』 - 2019-10-13

Same guy that names the gasses just by their color...

Chronicus - 2019-06-14

Hypothetically speaking:

If someone were to attempt some of the less dangerous experiments you preform having a companion cleanup video around makes a heck of a lot of sense. While they still should not attempt any sort of complex chemistry without understanding at least some of the mechanisms at play in the reaction, some will inevitably choose to anyway. With these companion videos you are giving those individuals the ability to be more responsible with any hazardous waste they may generate through their ill advised experimentation, as well as teaching them why these steps matter.

Kain Yusanagi - 2019-06-15

@Wayne Moore Congratulations on poisoning your local water table.

Benjamin Joshua Beggs - 2019-06-15

@Kain Yusanagi Nah. Gardens can absorb stuff really well. He also says he doesn't put the really bad stuff in the garden.

Kain Yusanagi - 2019-06-15

@Benjamin Joshua Beggs Gardens can leach some elements into the plants (which from then on are usually not fit for human consumption), but no, "they're not the really BAD stuff, so it's harmless!" isn't a thing. Any chemical waste discarded as such poisons the ground and leaches into the water table. Some information for you: https://www.epa.gov/hw/defining-hazardous-waste-listed-characteristic-and-mixed-radiological-wastes https://www.ecfr.gov/cgi-bin/retrieveECFR?gp=&SID=30af16874fe20c74e5ca10085556523c&mc=true&r=PART&n=pt40.28.261

Wayne Moore - 2019-06-15

@Kain Yusanagi Sodium (or potassium) sulfate dumped in the garden isn't going to hurt anything. A lot of side products or "expended" reagents are fine to dump. You just have to know what is safe before you dump it. Some things aren't good to eat, but degrade to harmless compounds very rapidly in soil. It's not like I'm dumping chloroform or hexavalent chromium out there.

Wayne Moore - 2019-06-15

@Nathaniel C. Polley My food-grade project wastes might be edible, but by the time I get done with them, they aren't very appetizing. The last thing I dumped from my soxhlet extractor was pepper powder, and it looked and tasted like sawdust.

apdewis - 2019-06-15

"In a few decades, I'll have to pay a company to deal with the waste I've created."
Will you be laughing maniacally as lightning arcs in the background like a proper mad scientist at that stage?

Micael García - 2019-06-15

OMG I JUST PICTURED THAT IN MY HEAD AND DNCOVSFKLBMSOJDFAUIH

jmitterii2 - 2020-01-06

In the next few months to year we hit the second great depression, he'll be broke as the rest of us will be, so the lab will be abandoned and his waste will just remain in whatever drawer or cabinet... sitting there waiting... for hungry vagrants to see if there's anything of value..... they'll just see a bunch of weird stuff.
And there it will sit... for about a decade or so, if not much longer.

T - 2020-02-06

@jmitterii2 Well thankfully he is canadian :)

akumma - 2020-10-07

jmitterii2 more likely someone will find it, dump it in the garbage, and it will pollute the groundwater somewhere and some kids will get sick in 30 years.

akumma - 2020-10-07

jmitterii2 actually it’s quite irresponsible he’s not dealing with his chemical waste now. But hey, internet views!

Blair the cat - 2020-06-06

“In a couple decades” fun to know he’s planning on just doing this for the rest of his life

Munden - 2019-06-14

0:40 DANGER "ACID", held on with band-aids.

Taylor Grey - 2019-06-15

The clean up is actually the most fascinating part of this channel imo, the world needs more green chemistry and I love learning anything about it I can.

Blackened Izzycore - 2019-11-26

I love how casually he says "I just dropped them into my acid bath"

Nik's Sofa - 2019-06-15

Now I wonder how many samples of perfect room-temperature superconductors are laying in waste drawers around the world. :)

DivideByZero - 2019-06-18

The same number as accidentally created functioning nuclear bombs lying in waste drawers around the world.

khaopan2316 - 2020-01-05

His vision : chemicals.
My vision : brown water.

WahidTrynaHeghugh - 2019-06-18

“It’s not a good idea to burn waste”

Does it anyway

Orian de Wit - 2019-06-17

Finally! All this time I've been living with these vats of manganese heptoxide under my bed, now I know what to do with it!

darmstadtKrö367 - 2020-12-25

"The yellow colour kinda threw me off"
Explosions&Fire: i feel you

Arrow - 2020-08-25

I like how your waste management is the same approach I take for managing my mental health. Keep adding to it and eventually pay a professional to help deal with it in about 10 years.

Frost Quake - 2020-05-18

Don't try to hide it...

You're the current Potions Professor at Hogwarts, aren't you?

toby boi - 2019-06-19

6:18 cool down with that asmr nile lol

Noah G - 2019-06-15

You should get an x-ray spectrometer like Cody'sLab has, you can use that to examine your waste and determine what's in it then potentially purify everything into usable chemicals.

Vivi mannequin - 2019-06-16

Look up how much those things cost

Ask Questions, Try Things - 2019-06-16

XRF guns don't cover organic compounds or light elements. That severely limits the usefulness for identification of chemistry wastes.

FYI cody'slab had to give back the XRF gun he was borrowing and currently does not have access to one.

Noah G - 2019-06-16

@Ask Questions, Try Things that's disappointing, are there any sort of easily portable spectrometers that would be more helpful for chemistry particularly organic chemistry?

Ask Questions, Try Things - 2019-06-16

@Noah G as far as I'm aware there is nothing currently that's in the realm of portable for identification with organic chemistry.

This article talks about some of the other techniques that chemists use and why light elements are different. https://www.thermofisher.com/blog/mining/another-option-for-light-element-analysis/

ZeLunatic - 2019-06-14

0:40 belongs on r/suspiciousquotes haha

Also on a serious note I also love watching the cleanup, it's very informative!

Venn 413 - 2019-06-14

DANGER
""""ACID""""

Bercilak - 2019-06-15

Yeah, those quotes around acid are rather curious.

CrocoGator - 2019-06-16

3:43 Was it because you peed into the glass?
3:53 Oh

Michael Chen - 2019-10-08

2:55 looks like pee, or cooking oil...

Justin R. - 2020-01-05

while scrolling through recommendations, I thought the thumbnail I thought this was some beef dish with egg on top

Ormarion - 2019-06-15

"I think it's because during some of the run with the heptoxyde".... I just pee on it !

Stout Lager - 2019-06-15

The clean up procedures are just as interesting to me as the original experiments. Thanks for posting these and do please continue in future.

happy guy - 2020-01-09

Funnily enough, ascorbic acid worked incredibly well for me to clean off any manganese dioxide stains in the past. After that you just as bicarbonate to precipitate Mn salts and ur done

LadyGabes - 2019-06-15

"either way tho it was pretty gross"
4:25

Volkan Sahin - 2020-09-21

That's what she sad...

Dion Silverman - 2021-01-14

I feel like a lot of chemists these days have lost the sort of alchemical curiosity of "what happens if I mix these? What if I heat it? What can I do to what's left over? What colour does it turn? What does it smell like? What does it sound like? What is actually happening here and what am I left with?"

I appreciate this, a lot.

Strade - 2019-06-14

The solid chunk you had at the end would probably be polymerized aniline with salts trapped inside.

Whatwhat3434 - 2019-06-14

yes - team clean up! thanks for listening!

Ben Lavine - 2019-06-15

"ACID" ?

UsernameNotDefined - 2020-02-10

Fake acid

Ash The Animator - 2020-03-22

Yes acid, not sulfuric acid though

Ashura Li - 2020-07-14

"When i eventually run out of space"
Or you know, expand to another space, never cleaned until your last breath? Put your will into cleaning it up lol

Zestric - 2019-06-14

Yes we still very much like the cleanup stuff

Boiling Hot Semen Entertainments - 2021-01-06

"in a couple of decades, when I run out of space to store my waste, I'll have to pay a company to deal with what I've created" dam this was deep

Rae C: - 2019-11-20

can we see a waste drawer tour❔👀

Sangita vsromana Petterson987** - 2020-12-01

I love how every waste disposal video I've seen here so far has ended with "this would be the end, but I got curious..."

Yaldabaoth - 2019-06-17

"It became brown so I swapped the background"
Genius!

Lukas - 2019-06-14

Hey, I really enjoy your content. If you ever need an NMR in future you can pm me and I can run it for you - but I’m located in Europe

Hikaru - 2019-06-15

2:40 mmmm forbidden coke