NileRed - 2017-08-08
Today I'll be making some margarine from olive oil, however, it is going to be terrible and inedible. It is all about the journey though...right? To make it, I'll be hydrogenating olive oil. Margarine is normally partially hydrogenated, but I am going to fully hydrogenate things. So, it's going to actually be closer to "shortening". I was informed by some people that my way of making the margarine was terrible. I am probably going to try it again sometime, where I use a whisk (and froth it properly) and I'll do a partial hydrogenation. Making Margarine video: https://youtu.be/P-M9i5gbEfM ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Merch - https://nilered.tv/store ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- ■ NileRed is now available on Nebula! https://go.nebula.tv/nilered (when signing up with this link, a portion of your membership directly supports the channel) Join the community: Patreon - https://www.patreon.com/nilered Discord - https://discord.com/invite/3BT6UHf NileRed Newsletter - https://nile.red/home#newsletter You can also find me here: Facebook - https://m.facebook.com/NileRed2 Instagram - https://m.instagram.com/nile.red Twitter - https://mobile.twitter.com/NileRed2 Nile talks about lab safety: https://youtu.be/ftACSEJ6DZA Music in credits (Walker by SORRYSINES): https://soundcloud.com/sorrysines/walker
...That awkward moment when you're binge-watching chem vids and begin to notice similarities between margarine and soap.
ohhh that's why this felt so familiar...
@@ahreuwu Right? lol
And gender
@@slimal1 why you gotta bring that stuff here? Keep it science bro!
Because soap is made from oil
I like it when he says "now that WE understand" because it makes me feel included
* nods and smiles still not understanding most of the things he said *
soviet anthem starts playing
Yes
Its common in academic papers to use this practice
I died reading this
"As the palladium on carbon dries it probably won't be a problem, but it can sometimes burst into flames."
This is why I love chemistry. "It should be fine, but it might spontaneously combust."
"Perfect!"
Explodes
"FU--"
Yeah science
"That one is a possible carcinogen so I guess try not to breathe it in" - Half of my chemistry labs
I'm glad Youtube exists. So I can just watch other brave souls put themselves in danger, in the name of science, instead of doing it myself. I'd love to be a chemist, if toxic fumes weren't a thing.
Either git gud at health and safety and making reasonable choices as to the danger posed by whatever you're handling or just use a fume cupboard for everything.
"It was not something I'd want to eat"
Sounds just like margarine tbh
Some margarine brands are ok. Not as good as butter but definetly good enough to be an ok alternative.
unhealthys your olive oil
@@theshuman100 I've been trying to decipher your comment for an hour now. Any hints?
@@superscatboy olive oil is allegedly healthy. Margarine isnt
@@theshuman100 Okay...
NileRed: "I'm calling it edible chem, but I'm not tasting it."
Also NileRed: > tastes sketchy margarine
I would have lost all respect for the man had he NOT tasted it, glad he did. No matter how revolting it looked, it should not have poisoned him unless he made big mistakes which he did not. Surprised it had no taste however.
And then it spontaneously combusts
@@exidy-yt I mean, if I were doing this workup I would want to avoid using toxic reagents in the process like Methanol and dichloromethane, but eh. Seems like he just used them as solvents so I'd have subbed out Methanol for Ethanol (not insanely toxic and should work just as well) and planned something else for his DCM step. It's probably fine since those solvents are volatile and you can reliably evaporate them off, but I'd always assume the worst that you still have a little reagent contaminating your final product.
@@LilJbm1 That's very true and in general it IS better to be safe then sorry, but a tiny bit of methanol or DCM wouldn't be much of a danger to him, I wouldn't think.
@@raidedsalt7110 lol
Most terrifying statement to hear from a Chemist: "I don't actually remember what I did."
Even in a situation as innocuous as this, my blood pressure rises just a bit.
That and pyrophorics are a bad, bad combination.
Made me think of the opener of Hogan's heroes when the bomb maker has the look of "whoops"
What if a doctor say it!
@@shaahinrapsong *says
But yea that means you're screwed
I remember I mixed some unknown concentrations of nitric acid, and ammonia and then I boiled it for 45 minutes because I trying to create a zinc precipitate and added an excess of nitric acid for a solvent lab for my second semester general chemistry class in college and I caused a reaction which produced nitrogen dioxide gas which is very toxic and I had to rush to the fume hood lol. That was my lesson to keep track of the concentrations of any solution or chemical being used.
"as the palladium on carbon dries, it probably won't be a problem.... But it can sometimes burst into flames so keep that in mind" WeLl OHMy
I wish I could be this genuinely UNPHASED by the horrors of life
If you watch a lot of his videos, you’ll figure out everything has a 70% chance of exploding
@@kingofspainMB1807 not wrong
Haven't you always wanted toast that toasts itself
not a problem
“i don’t own a hydrogen tank”
don’t worry, me neither
But I do own aluminum, HCl and NaOH 😉
can easily make one with batteries and water and another battery
"by the mid 1870s," map of Europe with Polish Lithuanian Commonwealth and Holy Roman Empire appears
Matt Hubsher
he is a chemist not a historian xD
I didn't even notice at first but mega-LOL now that I realized.
I started to twitch, thank you.
What's the problem?
Maggie P Its from a completely different century
"I added an arbitrary amount of everything with random concentrations with unknown starting material and unknown purity"
Basically how every chemistry discovery was made in the 17-1800s...
And create unknown and probably poisonous margarine
That's just what cooking is like honestly
@@serg_sel7526 Any reason it would be poisonous? This is just a simple hydrogenation it shouldn't produce any toxic chemicals
Victorian era food industry be like:
It is a miracle that anyone survived it, because every loaf of bread sold in industrial centres such as London was cut with chalk and alum
Seems there's an acceptable margarine of error during the hydrogenation process.
BA DUM TISH
Oh god
That's a groaner....... A really good bad one.
What have you done. Actually, don’t answer.
So you tha funny guy uh?
I love how he says all the scientific terms, then out of nowhere “I don’t remember what I did” and “double adapter thing”
Since it didn't turn out too well, I guess this would be called a margarine of error.
badum tiss lol
lol
Sizik oh wow nicre
Boi
I dont get it :(
(I'm german)
"I'm not going to be tasting my product at the end..." but also at the end "it was pretty bland and tasteless" lol
Ikr
He surely forced someone else to taste it.
i guess he means he probably tasted it at the time but he never recorded a video of tasting it like the other episodes
How could you cook with such detail and not have a taste at the end.
He should add salt to make it taste better
"Edible chem"
might contain high doses of methanol
Mmm, blindness
@DeltroxTv I also would not trust that. Plus it was in contact with dichloromethane which is even worse.
@DeltroxTv you don't trust chemistry then. Even if there was trace amounts of methanol left over it wouldn't have been anywhere near enough to have any effect whatsoever. If you drink any dark coloured hard liquor or beer just know that you're consuming more methanol in a single beer or shot than in probably 10lbs of the margarine he made. And dichloromethane has a boiling point of 39 degrees celsius while he heated the mixture far above that in the end. Him saying "it should probably be fine" has nothing to do with the sloppiness or carelessness of his methodology and execution and everything to do with the chaotic nature of chemistry itself. You would know this if you actually passed that grade 9 class.
@DeltroxTv "He's very lucky he hasn't hurt himself yet"
"I do heroin."
i would say you're pretty lucky too my dude
@DeltroxTv so if it's not that dangerous, then why is it not sold in pharmacies anymore?
im almost failing chemistry yet i love videos like this
As someone who failed all of my college chemistry exams (and I mean all, except for one), I just want to encourage you to keep pushing through it. Even though I never improved at chemistry, that experience helped me a lot in my life. It was humbling, yet I realized I didn’t have to be good at everything and failure wasn’t the end of the world. :)
Nile, I think you made earwax.
At least it didn't come from someone's ear
Yes it did come from Shreks's ears.. lol
Advanced margarine
@@straitjacket000 We both have Twig from Hilda on our icons! How awkward.
I was gonna change it soon but cool
The plastic texture came from the overuse of lecithin. As for the flavor, most manufacturers add salt and other substances to give it flavor. It will only taste like oil otherwise.
Yeah, those huge spoonfuls of the lecithin were making me gag 😣
Olive oil tastes quite nice on its own actually
@@OmniversalInsect it probably didn't taste like olive oil at all with the over use of lecithin
He should have consulted the food science nerds on this one.
as a cook i was watching the giant ass spoonful and seething and crying adn puking and when he went for another, larger spoonful on top of that i wanted to claw my eyes out and then his
"As the palladium on carbon dries, it probably won't be a problem, but it can sometimes burst into flames. So...keep this in mind."
I love this show.
I love my fake butter as flammable as possible, living life on the edge babyyyyyyy
if this happens, eat the fire to let chemistry know you're the alpha
@@sfsaviation that sigma grind
The monotone makes this even better 😂
"As the palladium on carbon dries, it probably won't be a problem, but it CAN sometimes burst into flames. So keep this in mind." This is what I live for
"There was no flavor." My inner Gordon Ramsay is screeching at you to add salt.
ADD SALT
and maybe some other flavoouring
Reioni bloody hell where’s the fucking seasoning, my god
An idiot sandwitch.
And to be precise, you want 65-95 mg of sodium per 10 g of finished product. Table salt is around 38.758% sodium (which is less than pure NaCl of course), so that means you should use between 17 and 22 g of salt per kilo of margarine.
@@radiomandelbrot5868 haha you are such a .....nerd?
I read that title as "Making margarine edible"
Knew it wasnt possible...
Actually, if you get the Country Crock (if they still make it) margarine, it's really good on banana bread!
right? just use butter or olive oil
@@moretzsohn7701 yeah, lemme spread some olive oil on my toast
@@anjom9234 just spread some water on your toast
I once managed to buy margarine made out of unrefined sunflower oil. It tasted better than most of the butter I've eaten.
15:28 "I'm left with this pastey fat."
Me, too, brother. Me, too.
Extra Virgin olive oil
Pasty white
I can relate
I don't understand. Is this a cum joke?🤔
@@chrono-glitchwaterlily8776 no, it's a fat joke and we are the fat
I actually want to try the old timey beef tallow margarine. We already use pig fat as a spread in Poland so I feel like this could be good.
Honestly it's sounds good.
Pajda z smalcem i ogórkiem kiszonym>>>>>
@@edwardhisse2687 yep, I'm kind of curious of how it tastes
Schmalz is basically that just usually with more salt. Tastes good, but don't mix it with Gingerbread... don't ask.
@@Powertampa yes I'm gonna ask, why?
"Today I received my chemistry exams back, I got a C so I just blasted them with a heat gun."
As someone who just flunked a chem exam, I have found my solution
Try adding a strong solution of hydrochloric acid.
"So anyway, I started blasting..."
@@jordlopez all the other kids
@@robertpallier376 with the pumped up kicks?
"I won't be trying it."
"I tried it and it had no flavor."
I think he just meant "on camera"
that is an incredible amount of lecithin you are adding! typically the lecithin quantity is 0.2% by volume!
I agree, a tiny amount of lecithin would have stabilised it :)
@@danielgriffin4624 I wonder if that caused the unsatisfactory result at the end. He added gobs of lecithin. My guess is he doesn't make a lot of edible emulsions (like salad dressing or mayo). Lecithin is present in just a small amount in egg yolk or mustard (used as the source of the emulsifier in these mixtures) and you use relatively little of these compared to the oil and vinegar to be emulsified.
I've found if you put too much in, it starts tasting like rotten eggs too!
Agreed. I used to add about 1/4 tsp to an entire big pot of chicken soup to get the chicken fat to emulsify into the water. Lil dab will do ya. I think he just ended up with olive flavored soy paste :-)
that was my thought - it was oily lecithin rather than marg.
It reminds me of the stories my father used to tell me about how they used to get Margarine deliveries in separated bags to be mixed when ready to consume.
Okay, so in a completely unrelated note, I now understand the etymology of "cis" and "trans" thanks to your explanation of hydrogen bonds. I never really understood how the term "cisgender" came about before. Bonus learning!
I was about to say, how is no one talking about that
“What are those unhealthy he-she sounding things?” - Krusty the Clown
@@sqtisfy bv
There's all kinds of neat words to help us understand and quantify life, like quantify!
@@rebeuhsin6410 The prefixes originated from a chemist who was either trans or friend of a transperson and had the thought that "If there are trans people, that means all the others are cis" or something of that kind. So while "trans" pertaining to gender was coined in the early 20th centurey by the psychiatrists studying transpeople, "cis" came about as a chemistry joke. And it stuck.
I Can't Believe It's Not "I Can't Believe It's Not Butter!"!
It's not butter "It's Shrek's ear wax!" - Fabio
SCP joke
I can
I can’t believe it’s not “I can’t believe it’s not I can’t believe it’s not butt”
@@bluey_heeler But it is butt.
Somehow I read the title as “Making Marmalade” and I was really confused for the first like 10 mins before I realized I read it wrong
BRO ME TOO i was like ????? how u get the orange flavor though??
I don't understand anything, but your voice is very soothing and I watch this to put me to sleep.
"Then I attach this double adaptor thing."
Clearly, the technical description XD
I had a nurse lean into the hallway asking for "that stabby thingy."
It was a needle and it took a minute to stop laughing so they could put it in. She still did a good job though and halfjokingly stated that was "the technical term." The nurse that handed one to her confirmed that statement.
In geology, that kind of description of an instrument, or even a mineral. Is more common than dirt.
Also add a bunch of everything.
That margarine you wound up with looks remarkably similar to the soap you made earlier...
Margarine and soap aren't that different. If he had added butter flavoring I would bet the product would be no worse than regular margarine.
I think he mixed up the two video footages. tsk tsk
There’s a lesson in that somewhere 🤔
At first it looked like marmalade. Then you created ear wax.
Lethicin is a very strong emulsifier, you could get away with an eighth of what you used there. I’ve used it to stabilize a vinaigrette, or to emulsify thc into simple syrup and you really barely need any
Damn son, been studying chem with all that stolen money eh?
@@lyfelesscadaver1713 nope, lost it and became a cook
pretty sure he could have gotten away with using an 80th even. Is it worth picking up to use as an emulsifier? I typically just use mustard.
@@tetryst Margarine is a bit harder to hold together where you could typically use mustard, shallot, or egg yolk. Margarine sucks tho so who care lol
@@tetryst mustard naturally contains lecithin. And egg yolks. It's why they're typical ingredients in vinaigrettes. But having some lecithin on hand is nice. It can be used as a stabilizer in breads, use it to make foams (molecular gastronomy sh*t) or toss some into vinaigrettes with no emulsifiers. I've used it with just lemon and olive oil with varying success
"It probably won't be a problem."
"But it can sometimes burst into flames."
I think we have a different definition of the word problem! haha.
In case you're curious, most margarine today is made by fully hydrogenating vegetable oil (to avoid transfats), and then adding some liquid fat to keep it spreadable. This was a really great video, I enjoyed it a lot.
+Charlotte Larson thanks for the info. I'm glad you liked it!
i literally binged nile's vids and i noticed he always use this term, "in any case though..."
"... I started blasting it with a heat gun"
also "at this point..."
@@Kagedamage And I started blasting*
What a coinicdence, I figuratively binged Nile's video's.
"AnYwAy"
You know you’re in good hands with a chemist if they call one of their tools a “double adapter thing “
Curing and preserving meat usually requires sodium nitrate. Throughout history people have obtained it from pink salts or through through the juice and extracts from spinach, lettuce, celery and other dark leafy greens. So I was wondering if you could do a video on extracting pure food grade sodium nitrate from some leafy greens?
Better use of kale than eating it (yuck). ;)
Throughout history it was mined from rocks in South America. It's not extracted from "pink salt" it's used in the production of pink salt. There has never been a mass production operation for saltpeter synthesis centered around extracting "the juices" of those vegetables. Sodium nitrate does not accumulate in those plants either as it's a salt, the plants merely contain nitrate.
When life gives you lemons, blast 'em with a heat gun!
When life gives you lemons, don't make lemonade. Make life take the lemons back. Get mad! I don't want your damn lemons! What am I supposed to do with these?! Demand to see life's manager! Make life RUE THE DAY it thought it could give Cave Johnson lemons! DO YOU KNOW WHO I AM?! I'm the man who's gonna BURN YOUR HOUSE DOWN. With the lemons! I'm gonna get my engineers to invent a combustible lemon that BURNS YOUR HOUSE DOWN!
Humans gave life lemons
Pam pa-da-dam pam-pam paw!
So anyway I started blastin
"In any case though, I did give it a try, and it practically had no flavor at all, and... was definitely something I wouldn't want to eat."
Mission Accomplished! Huge success!
Task failed successfully!
Operation successful, patient dead!
"Fission mailed!"
As the uranium reactor sits in the mailbox.
Try to add less emulsifier (it seems you might have added too much of lecithin) and maybe add a bit more olive oil. Also some salt might help with the taste. But the taste is also influenced by the scent as well. If you get the time, by playing around with ratios and aromas you could end up with a pretty solid (and spreadable) margarine.
Up next: Creating Life
Probably trivial given a long enough timescale and a controlled environment. Renting lab space for millions of years sounds pretty expensive however, so he's going to need to step up his patreon game.
Jacob Triffo
Made my Day XD
I don't think YouTube would allow that.
@@jttech44 What are you talking about? Creating life is much easier. All you need is Jesus, a capable man and a fertile girl willing to fuck that man.
This is edible chem. So we create life, then we eat it.
More like, "How to make ‘I can’t believe it’s not Chrystal meth!’ "
"Chrystal Meth"
fun fact, the word crystal does not contain the letter H anymore
*Sad trombone *
crysler meth
Bryce Dangerfield crisis meth
The hydrogen can actually leak through the balloon skin fairly quickly
Mylar
Helium would go through faster since it's the smallest atom and is not diatomic like hydrogen.
6alecapristrudel The atomic mass of hydrogen is 1, meaning just 1 proton is present. So if it's coupled, then it would have a mass of 2, 2 protons. Helium has an atomic mass of 4, which is 2 protons and 2 neutrons. Hence, helium is still larger/heavier than H2.
Mass has nothing to do with it. It's all about atomic radius, which is determined by the size of the electron orbitals. The size of a nucleus has a tiny direct contribution to the size of an atom. But as nuclei become more and more charged they pull the electrons further in. If you remember your periodic table atoms get smaller the further to the right they are. That and helium's extra electron is located in the same 1s orbital as hydrogen's electron, but with opposite spin. This means that no new shell is created and therefore the atom does not get bigger and in fact it gets smaller.
And even if hydrogen were smaller it would only be by a little bit. It would have to be less than half the size of helium in order for H2 to be smaller than He. And that is laughably wrong.
I habe crohns disease and am severly sensitive to hydrogenated oils. It keeps me from eating a LOT of food! Anyways, just started the video and am excited for my favorite chem youtuber to teach me some things
1:55 "Don't let our food be denied you, put our polyunsaturated fats and triglycerides inside you"
"No, dude, that is salt"
@NileRed - 2017-08-08
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@jaredgarden2455 - 2017-08-08
Hydrogenation :D thats the second one ive seen you do if im not mistaken.
Perhaps you could do a video on preparing a hydrogenation catalyst?
PtO2 is a rather easy one to prepare however its rather pyrophoric, Not sure how to go about impregnating palladium onto carbon but maybe that would be a more friendly less potentially explosive option, of coarse dry Pd/C is still pyrophoric but i think if its wet its rather safe as you demonstrated here.
Not sure if wet platinum is also safer to handle.
@oroloroplootploot3892 - 2017-08-09
Why would anyone eat hardened plant fats (trans fat) willingly? Shit infects the walls of your blood vessels and those infected areas start to cloak up, eventually leading to your death.
@proud2deviate - 2017-08-09
Meh. Practically everything you eat eventually leads to your death.
Tasty, tasty death :D
(Although seriously, butter is empirically superior to margarine in practically every area, with the possible exceptions of cold-temperature spreadability and cost.)
@oroloroplootploot3892 - 2017-08-09
No, not everything. PLz stop misleading people with your bullshit.
@proud2deviate - 2017-08-09
Actually, yes. *Everything*.
Every single calorie you intake and burn scoots you a little further along your inexorable descent towards a genetically-programed death.
bon appétit, sweetie.