Extractions&Ire - 2021-06-15
I explore an alternative way of generating H2S for an upcoming project that uses the reaction between paraffin and sulfur to generate the toxic gas. It doesn't feel like real science though. Subreddit: https://www.reddit.com/r/ExplosionsAndFire/ Join the Discord!! https://discord.gg/VR6Fz9g Twitter: https://twitter.com/Explosions_Fire Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/ExplosionsandFire Music is as usual from the Aphex Twin soundcloud dump, track names are: - 40 Lannerlush Full - 17Elb1 - 18Elb2 Paper reference: "The Production of Hydrogen Sulphide by Heating Paraffine and Other Hydrocarbon Mixtures with Sulphur" (1930) https://journals.iupui.edu/index.php/ias/article/view/4345
You really dodged a bullet by using a blue candle and not a yellow one. Imagine all the things that could have gone wrong!
@Woo Six Chemistry is alchemy, with time to build up grudges
@Extractions&Ire way to keep your humors balanced
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You know you didn’t have to use argon, just use hyperphlogisticated air... uhhh... I mean, use nitrogen enriched air and you’ll be fine.
The phase of the moon is more important actually
@Cezar Catalin depends what he's pumping it into. Some things might react with the nitrogen. Yes it's triple bonded N2 but highly electropositive elements and reactants can still react with n2 gas to produce nitrides and other compounds (lithium nitride being the only stable alkali metal nitride). Argon is generally nonreactive above something like 20 kelvin if memory serves, so unless you're doing reactions in the vacuum of deep space, you won't have any problems. Either way, you don't want any random nitrogen side products forming since there's a good chance they might be explosive and unstable XD. It'll also react with strong oxidizers to produce nitrogen dioxide in some instances as well, but if you're mixing sulfur contributing molecules with strong oxidizers you've already got a bad time on your hands (best of luck). Anything that produces nitrogen dioxide in the presence of water, for instance, will create nitric acid, which has a habit of making things into exploding versions of themselves.
It's got yellow chem as an ingredient.
It's got yellow chem as a byproduct.
It's got flammable gas + oxidiser within a glass vessel.
It's got ratios measured in thumbs.
It's got hardware, dinner party and fireplace ingredients.
It's gotta be the hardest damn thing to clean up before you even start the reaction.
What's not to like?!?
Everything
Upside down science man does mist magic
I keep watching to see inside out man...
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@CIownpiss how did you do that?
@Anonymous
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We're goin to bendigo morty
There are several quests involving chemistry in RuneScape, and this is definitely on that level
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@Devyn Guitnwr iirc rs2 came out in 2004, original runescape came out in 2001. Now referred as classic
@Dickard Especially if your buying something obscure, i remember being stuck there trying to buy bear fur to finish druidic ritual for like 2 hours
Your memes are not my chemistry #triggered
I remember having to make my lamp oil. Rimmington chemist represented.
After watching like 50 of your videos I finally have a useful suggestion: Don't use candles as your paraffin source. There are weird (cheap) formulations used in candles that often contain residues of all sorts of things including perfumes used in the same molds. Just buy a block of canning wax to be sure you have purity. It's cheap.
@Chemistry of Questionable Quality oh no... don't tell me fact storing brain = autistic :(
@Younes Layachi not usually. a lot of autistic people are exceptionally good at fact storing brain tho.
Not cheaper than some candle you took from your mum.
@filonin2 It's always free if mum or dad bought it
The start-up procedure involves having the output hose in some water until the lead oxide paper test shows HS is flowing. By then, any perfume is technically fucked, or at least smells like an eggy ass-plosion, and is thus nullified of its seductive effects on chemistry.
If you calculate the H2S content you need and only put in enough sulphur for three or four equivalents, you can add an excess of wax to make the cleanup easier. Once your reaction is done, just heat to the melting point of the wax and then pour the rest of the wax out. You can reuse the wax if you really want to, as long as you don't use a literal burnt stick for a nucleation site lol. Should also stop the sulphur fouling your precious precious Claisen Adapter (and everything else).
Is he rich enough to get 4 blue candle sticks?
I love old chemistry papers, since they often used chemicals really easy to get hold of (considering it might have been the best they could do at the time) and the process ends up being pretty manageable for modern Australians in sheds to do
Easy as dicks just use some 4-Hydroxybenzoic acid 4-O-glucoside
It's extremely important that you ONLY use BLUE candles. Don't fuck it up.
@Aron Ásmundur Jónasson yes. Rule #1 of sterilizing seeds with chlorine. Remember chlorine is heavier than air and will sit in your well plate.
@Jeremy McAdams I actually badly formulated my sentence, I wanted to say "Is it the chlorine that's making you cough?", referring to the "*cough cough*" that you said
My bad, I probably should get some sleep '^^
@Aron Ásmundur Jónasson no you came across perfectly. I intentionally misinterpreted it to talk about a person experience with chlorine
@Cracked Emerald They're not evil, just angry.
@Nobody Noone Yellow and blue make white science, thats why his lab coat is white. To do green science you need a green lab coat
"Well, this is not real chemistry - this looks like potion making from some RPG" is a phrase you can build an entire channel upon =]
No stoichiometry were harmed in the creation of this alchemy.
Hello Everyone, anybody who gives suggestions that how can I detect H2S gas from Soil and which method gives a meaningful result?
Sounds like Nilegreen
Ah yes, as expertly demonstrated in the reaction of Al and S (w/ steel wool), a timber shed with lots of dry wood makes a good location for conducting exothermic reactions.
The extractions & Ire editing style is getting more explosions & fire shit posty. I approve :D
The claisen adapter 📯🎵 🎆
Seriously the editing style is something i always loved about this channel
@Steam it's why I watch this way more than NileRed or any other science youtuber!@
@James Howarth same
Since carbon and sulphur already are elements I demand that Blue candle receive an "ad honorem" element status.
I believe that blue candle is an allotrope of element candle, rather than separate element.
@Bagniacz haha spot on 👌
I remember taking a safety course (H2S alive) for working in the oil field. Apparently one of the scary things about H2S is that if you get exposed to a lethal dose (even without a knockdown), it might not kill you right away. So you may think you're fine, but it can build up in your system because it'll dissolve in your blood and then later that night or the next day your lungs start to fill with fluids and shut down due to damage from the gas, and that's what will kill you. Really nasty stuff, the instructor who was teaching this stuff was very adamant that there was no "safe" exposure limit to H2S despite different regions having "safe exposure levels". His argument was that you take a look at the regions that have oil and gas industries, vs the regions that don't, and the regions that have these industries "for some reason" have a higher safe exposure limit than regions without this industry.
"Combine the candle with the burnt twig"
Classic survival gameplay!
"Look around you… can you fashion some sort of rudimentary lathe?" -- Galaxy Quest parodying the makeshift cannon from Star Trek's "Arena".
Chemagic is real but very dirty.
Nice tar synthesis Tutorial!
"In todays video were making the chemical compound most feared by the petroleum industry"
@StabbyJoe135 yawn....
Thorium?
Hydrogen?
@Dave Marchitto Please be real, hydrogen is the laughing stock of petrochemical executives.
@Jermaine Race the most common substance in the universe is combustible. Hilarious.
“12 grams candle” was way funnier than it should’ve been. And yeah I’d stick with argon for the next run if it’s not too much of a pain. You’re likely right, with enough air you’re below the flammability threshold, but why risk it and/or rely on your small air pump and hope you’re below the threshold of your air/HS glass shrapnel bomb detonating
We have a lot of yellow here, alchemy-ish reactants, stinky poisonous gas and potential fire hazard. Nearly perfect. I couldn't ask for more, really.
Maybe add some glass wool in the neck of the flask to stop sulfur getting in the condenser. I also wonder if parrafin oil would do the same with easier cleanup.
I think it might actually, that's a good thought. Although I'm not sure it would 'turn off' as easy as it won't solidify and completely stop the reaction very well maybe
I'd give it a try in a test tube but I don't feel the need to stink up my lab :) Would be awesome if the temperature controls the production rate then
@Extractions&Ire Measure the temperature at which it starts generating?
I do suspect that the reaction temperature if used with paraffine oil could be a bit lower.
Your actions today are notable contributions to the scientific community! We're going to learn so much about cancers studying you in thirty years!
The difficult part will be differentiating between the "I live in Australia so this was inevitable" cancer and the "I worked around chemicals all my life" cancer.
Finally, you're making something I know what it is! Known to laymen as sour gas. I took a safety course for working around it (oilfield work) and they told us "if you can't smell it, it's either not there, or you're already dead." Fun!
7:12 "rapidly accelerated fractionated glassware"
A safe euphemism.
Nose can get used to low levels too. I was distilling liquids some time ago and it had a slight hydrogen sulfide smell (nothing for me to get worried about, a very slight smell). However, after long time sitting by and taking fractions I got slight sympthoms that turned into light head ache, moved to fresh air and it turned into a large headache followed by dizziness. For large concentration it can make you not smell it almost at all.
I'd rate H2S closer to cyanides in danger (I can possibly disable you pretty quickly too). The difference to me is that at least you can smell it unlike CO or if you're like me, HCN at least in slow levels (but yet high enough to give slight dizzyness).
I know 0 chemistry but I always love watching your videos
glad you like the content mate!
This is much easier than my eggs and beans method.
Somehow this has been one of your scariest videos lmao. The sudden kind of explosion at 9:26 was something that would have made me shit my pants while in uni. Also 100% agree, using a carrier gas is really nice in a case like this but I would definitely not do it with air again, especially considering that the reaction was kind of a bitch to handle properly. Cheers <3
"It's not real science."
It's CLASSICAL SCIENCE.
Alchemy*
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For some reason "12 grams candle" really cracked me up
"12 grams candle" in a scientific protocol would get the fuck out of my attention. I'd probably try a "12 grams candle" experiment before any of those fancy "12 grams petroleum-based high melting point mineral wax (CAS number, company/supplier)" type protocols
I think this is a common reaction that should occur with any hydrocarbons, i remember visiting a gas desulfurization unit from a natural gas producer where the molten sulfur had still some methane/ethane mixed in and it produced quite a lot of H2S.
Also worth mentionning it also produced a strange mineral they called Carbsulf (not much info about this) which i assume was some kind of carbon polysulfide, it was somewhat translucent and flaky (i still got some in my collection).
The Aphex Twin soundtrack is so perfect for your videos. I love how the bit at 9 minutes is a completely frayed and decayed continuation of the earlier bit. The music adds so much to your production value!
>Uses powder that was yellow from the start
>Reaction flask and condenser is fucked with yellow and tar black
>Success!
refreshing change!
I made a whole bunch by using a protein skimmer on my saltwater aquarium. The bacteria in the skimmer started churning it out one day and when I took the lid off to figure out what was making the smell- blam, the whole house smelled like rotten eggs. I laid on the floor, scrubbing out the protein skimmer and tank having very little idea that was actually dangerous and not just known-to-the-state-of-California-dangerous like I'd assumed. The smell is fucking gnarly.
Thank you for sharing it Tom ! I already knew this methode but never heards about adding charcoal to it. The cleaning kinda traumatised me as it took a entire liter of xylene and maybe 200ml of piranah to fully clean the jar from my side. What i recomment to people using this methode is to just rapidely clean it to remove big junk and keep it as a jar specially for this reaction. Anyway will be very helpful for my 24h bubbling of H2S for making thiobenzophenone ^^
it's nice to see SOMEONE is at least thinking about safety 😊👍
..at least THINKING about safety. >XD
I used H2S liquid as a sulfur donator when I was growing MoS2 on Graphene (i also grew the graphene and transferred it onto silicon wafers) because the ATTM (Ammonium tetrathiomolybdate) reaction sometimes wouldn't happen. I used a PARR vessel to create high pressure temperatures which drove the reaction. The whole goal was to show that if the MoS2 seeded properly and grew on the graphene, the graphene could serve as the electron transport layer in a Hydrogen Evolution Reaction. which it did. Point being, H2S is the most putrid rotten egg smell i have ever had the pleasure to work with.
I did notice that in one of the shots of your reaction there were distinctly large "bubbles" of gas forming, but i think the surface tension of the molten liquid was very strong and trapped it. The clip where you had a burst of gas was when 4 or 5 of those "bubbles" burst open. So i think that you could safely say that this generates a ton of H2S immediately, but because of that surface tension it traps it until there is enough heat to break the tension and then it releases the gas that accumulated over time.
I spent 2 years working on a project that involved condensing H2S into an organic solvent at cryogenic temperatures, followed by a warming ramp to allow it to react gradually. We did tons of process safety work to ensure that the H2S was fully consumed at every point in the warming ramp. Worst case scenario for scale up to a 2000L vessel would have been if the plant forgot to charge the reaction partner to the vessel. Full charge of H2S would have gone in with no reaction, then upon warming it exceeds the solubility limit for H2S in that solvent.
We did the math, it would have been enough H2S to evacuate the town should the worst possible branch of the FMEA occur, so we put administrative and engineering controls to make it nigh impossible to occur. Never been so glad to see a project die though, that reaction step always put me on edge.
In the discord, I had theorized that using walnut shell-based sand blasting media could be used to clean glassware. Basically dump some in and shake it up a bunch. Doesn't scratch it, is disposable, still abrasive and is generally quite dry. Could even use it in conjunction with water. Figured I'd mention it here just in case it makes a difference and maybe if people agree it'll get noticed? In the states I got like 10 lbs for something like 20 freedom bucks and 10 lbs of dry ass walnut shell is quite a lot more than I realized.
edit: Also maybe use a cheese grater for the wax/charcoal next time so you dont end up accidentally pulverizing it lmao.
I used to work in an environment where the scent of H2S was so common that eventually it just started to smell like cheap corn chips. Specifically, like Bugles. To this day if I smell them it makes my stomach flip.
Unique reaction! I heard somewhere that a mix of sulfur, carbon, and potassium nitrate in a ratio of 10:15:75 works even better! ;)
Staying up till 4am was worth it. I have some bad memories of H2S forming in our water heaters.
Can I ask what thats about?
Eee... you guys must have a shitload of sulphur in water, or what?
@Bagniacz idk exactly how but we had water sitting in the heater for a long time without use. Smells terrible.
Perfect, I've been wanting to experiment with using the girdler sulfide process to get heavy water vs buying it or spending ages electrolyzing it. I was very wary of the Hsulfide and had given up on the endeavor but this method seems to actually make production and handling seem somewhat feasable!
I was actually exposed to quite a lot of this nasty stuff at a chemistry course about 5 years ago...
Didn't know it's that toxic back then and we were way beyond the limits
For anyone interested, the "teacher" used about 50g FeS and and 100g HCl (Iron Sulfide and Hydrogen chloride)
btw, I still have the Iron sulfide somewhere slowly decomposing if I remember correctly...
"For our sulfur we just have... Sulfur"
Very informative, 10/10 would watch again
Curious. The Kipp's is just so damn easy to use and so much fun that I can't think of a reason not to just use that. Unless, of course, one does not own one. As far as utter wastes of time go, this was entertaining. I mean that in a good way.
This is a very nice method for making H2S, which by the way is a gasotransmitter apparently, like NO. You could make pellets out of wax, sulphur and carbon, maybe a couple of grams each. And melt one pellet at a time when you need H2S. And you can after some tests add different number of pellets depending on how much gas you want to make
That argon cylinder, peeking around the corner like a doggo at the kitchen threshold. XD
Literally staring you down in the corner
Im actually a card carrying member of argon addicts anonymous. That poor little guy needs some attention
@redxpen I've had a cylinder sitting in my garage for years now, originally it was for an ion engine that wasn't meant to be.
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This is such a cool and simple reaction. I’ve always wanted to see someone attempt it when I saw it listed as an alternative way of producing H2S on the Wikipedia page for hydrogen sulfide
regarding cleaning the flask: at uni when I made sulfur chlorides once, I used salt in ethanol as an abrasive to get most of the yucky residue out. fill it in, stopper, shake the hell out of it. got the idea from an online guide on how to clean tarred up bongs. ;)
When i worked at a gas station, i had to freuently clean burnt coffee from the pot. I would put ice and salt in it then swirl it around. The results were surprisingly good. I hope this helps some.
Jeppe Kjer - 2021-06-15
Always good to stop and think "How could this experiment have killed me?". It trains your critical thinking and builds up your paranoia levels at the same time!
Brian CP - 2021-07-25
@XXX M It's hard to buy straight nitric acid in the US, but it's very easy to buy precursors. In fact, most hardware stores will carry a stump killer and a drain cleaner that can be combined and distilled into nitric. I would know, I've done it twice in order to make gun cotton (in very limited amounts cause dying sounds like a bad time)
XXX M - 2021-07-26
@Brian CP Tbh tho, making guncotton sounds way less interesting when you can just go and buy some. You don´t need a background check for that, right?
Rocketplumber - 2021-10-21
H2S killed an oilfield worker and his wife who went to the worksite to search for him, tragically leaving their kids orphaned in the car.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jh2HWT8gPeY
Brian CP - 2021-10-21
@XXX M Nope! No background check, no nothing. You buy them like they're a pack of gum.
Chemistry of Questionable Quality - 2021-12-28
@Adrian's Chemistry Laboratory subbed.