Dug - 2023-12-15
Ep 6 RDX part 2
Love the vibe, channel's a hidden gem for sure
Yes, vibe is on point.
This guy is gonna be on the news for not cool stuff some day
you should have been a chemistry teacher, you're very amazing, I have chemists in my family, and they would be very proud that there are people out there like yourself still into this amazing combustible chemistry. thank you
Had no idea Christian Bale moon lights as a chemist! Love it
The literary brilliance of the intro is Shakespearean. It's poetry.
I thought it was beavis and butthead.
I've missed you Dugan! Thanks for coming back <3
He uploaded less than a week ago calm down. Hes right tho good too see you uploading
@@thegold3538 this is the first video I've seen since his request for help, my bad dawg.
"It's just like Burger King, you just have it your way." Haha, good stuff.
dank set of videos! you've done a better job teaching chem than my school teachers. thanks for the time you've spent on your vid.
Been watching my notifications since the first part! Great to see you again, the energetics videos are awesome.
its crazy to think about the factories the CRANKED out huge amounts of RDX during WWII. they had accidents too, and there are some good documentaries about the poor souls who got obliterated in factory accidents making warheads for the war effort. There is a decent pucker factor just making a small amount for research (or whatever reason) in the gram range. imagine making 20 pounds of RDX in a big vat, and then knowing you are going to cram it into a steel case later to make a gravity bomb to be dropped on Germany. 20 is just a guess, i imagine they made much larger batches at a time. its also interesting that such an old energetic is still being used right now. a lot of the munitions in Ukraine probably have RDX
There are huge environmental contamination problems around those factories that are still causing problems today unfortunately.
Imagine whipping up 2 tons of it to mix with 2 tons of tnt to fill one Grand Slam Bomb.
@@chemistryofquestionablequa6252 I read a story about an old gold mine in Nova Scotia, where over the course of several years of operation, small quantities of nitroglycerine from their blasting was some how getting spilled in their tailings pile outside the mine shaft. Maybe they always measured out thier charges in that spot before proceeding into the mine, I can't remember how it kept accumulating there. At some point, after many years, there was enough of it there that it got set off and blew the pile up. Can't remember if anyone got killed, but apparently it can persist in the open elements for a long time.
I had all this info separately but he is my hero putting it all together like this in a convenient easy to understand package!
Long live the all knowing Dugan!
Wow, accidentally stumbled across your semi new channel Dugan. Love the presentation of the videos, the explanation of equipment or reasons why to do it a certain way over another, it just really helps to someone with no chem background. Hope you're doing great man!
Oh no Dugan has enough subs to go live. …
I love the fact you filmed a runaway. I've never seen one in person thankfully. But I can see how it could become deadly very quickly.
Been anxiously awaiting this one! Best cooking channel on YouTube.
The chuckle on the dump bucket for run away. The tune show visual of having too small a dump bucket ran thru my head too. Lol
so good to have you back dug. love ya man
Даг, ты лучший по энергетике на ютубу! Привет тебе из Москвы! Надеюсь посмотреть от тебя побольше химии,очень классно преподносишь материал!
I'm watching with great interest. You look like a young Bradley Cooper)
Make a video about nitronium tetrafluoroborate (powerful nitration agent). can you synthesis it ?
And, could you make a video for type 2 RDX synthesis as well?
it was an extremely interesting presentation. I would even say as extreme as a "runaway situation" can be, from an intellectual point of view
of course hahaha! Your explanations were clear, precise and you raised points concerning reactivity linked to temperature which particularly appealed to me. You have a way of presenting the subject in such manner that was very stimulating ; you captivated my attention from start to finish.
Thank you very much for this good work, sincerely.
How do you wax desensitized? Any explanation?
Hello, Can you make a video for hmx synthesis too?
like you said. the fact that all of this shit is going onn in the world is the reason learning energetics. knowledge is a weapon everybody is allowed to have
Based on solubility, acetone accounts for the majority of chem costs for RDX, even for one recryst. cycle. Dissolve/crash seems prohibitive except as expedient for small experiments/demos. I wonder if repeatedly cycling solvent temp while alternately filtering crystals and (nearly) re-saturating solution using perhaps 100ml:60g acetone-RDX ratio (after 10-ish cycles) would not accomplish the lion’s share of the purification done in a 100ml:15g crash. Just a thought.
You can recover it by distillation if you really want but watch the temperature.
Can someone show me how to plasticize the crystallization of RDX
Now how do you plasticize your Cyclonite?
Glad to have you back dugan!!! We missed you so much 😭
The risk of accumulation is way to important in your protocol due to the low addition temperature. Also there is no thermal sink that can help the synthesis get under control trough evaporation. You can adapt the procedure by having hexamine disolved in acetic acid and to add it to aceticanhydride, amonium nitrate, nitric acid and more acetic acid dropwise. Work at higher temperature in a three neck flask with a mechanical agitator, a condensor and a temperature probe. This way if you ever risk runing into a runaway, the acetic acid will boiloff , condense and keep the reaction at a safe temperature. In the industry some process are adding all reagent using flow metered pump and are performing the reaction in a jacketed pipe reactor at high flow rate.
Where in the hell are you gonna get acetic anhydride?
@@BearValleyPyro If you can't make AA you have no business making high explosives ;)
@@aterteeI have made RDX before by making HDN first. I tried this method and the yield was shit.
I am not as advanced as you, I just like messing around is all.
@@aterteemaking AA in any reasonable quantity isn't really doable at home unless you start with acetyl chloride and it's also hard to get.
What if you used acetone dryice bath as the cooling element
Dugans out here doing gods work. I appreciate you, man.
Nice finaly the 2nd part! I hope this channel won't disappear like some other similar channels ...
Will RDX explode with acetone peroxide?
Saludos buen amigo desde México podría ser una síntesis usando ácido sulfúrico concentrado al 98% y nitrato de amonio recristalizado para hacer la mezcla sulfonitrica espero su respuesta saludos y suerte
I would say "fuck, I'm on a list now".... But I don't think there's a list anymore. 😂
Can amonium nitrate be replaced by potassium nitrate?
how to plasticize the RDX?
Tried this but I made 2 mistakes.
1. I didn't wait for it to cool to 20C before quenching.
2. I poured it into the bicarb wash pail instead of the icewater pail.
There was a tiny amount of precipitate but not much I only did a 4 gram batch so I thought it might have worked.
I filtered and there was hardly anything in the coffee filter . . . After I squeezed the water out of the filter and scraped everything up there was an amount the size of half of a standard marble. It burned like it was supposed to, but the yield just wasn't there. Did I screw it up with the 2 mistakes?
First time also so didn't expect allot but also didn't expect nothing. 😂
Could be my HNO3 but it is still funing so IDK . . . I shall try again.
Thank very well explain, about runaway factors
@duganashley1337 when using nitric acid for recrystalizations correct me if I’m wrong you would evaporate the acid at that point would you have to neutralize the acid again
How low can you get the reaction temperature? Like could you use a dry ice ethanol bath instead of an ice bath?
E posdivel eu nitrar o rdx com acido nitrico 70% com nitrato de amonia pra almentar a concentracao
How does a guy get started in amateur accelerants I find chemistry fascinating but don’t know where to start
Sciencemadness forums
I love you Dugan, keep doing what you do man!
Guys
Do we need pure ammonium nitrate or can we used ammonium nitrate without purification after bisulfate sodium and nitrate sodium reaction ?
Thanks and best regard for your response ?
I start with HDN. I have a dozen PDF files on this subject.
HDN is 2x lower heat of nitration, but direct hexamine is a magnitude faster to yield. But the k method uses hexamine. HDN can be substituted if weight is adjusted. But in RDX generally, HDN isn't necessary. I have found during keto rdx synthesis, HDN is almost mandatory because of the wild heat of reaction. I've had actual live runaways out of nowhere during K6 using hexamine. while RDX is fairly safe. @darianballard2074
@@duganashley1337 Fun stuff. I love to make PETN over just about any other compound like this. Have you ever tried doing melt cast with ETN? I've done ETN melt with RDX and also done it with PETN. Very powerful mix and no need for pressing. Good video by the way. 😁
Thank you. Ive watched all of your videos in the past and enjoy them as well. I appreciate PETN too. I prefer it over RDX. I absolutely love ETN. erythritol is $3-$4/lb. I haven't covered it yet because it is a dangerous topic if I don't really cover it well. So many people blow off their body parts and kill themselves with ETN. @@darianballard2074
HI brother
Can you give me a pdf on the topic of RDX please
Would 65% nitric be viable?
dude i must be stupid or something but i finally recognized you. glad to see youre getting by dugan. nothing but love brother. climb to glory
Time stamp 12:39 I see you're letting the flask sit on the bottom of the water bath, I never do that to avoid hot spots and I only go up to 55c
I use PID controller hotplates that are set to the actual target temps so there are no spots that are above that. The water will homogenously diffuse heat as far as I'm aware. I haven't put probes under a beaker to measure actual heat in a bath, but I do use a IR thermometer to check hot water surface readings and it is very low temp deviations throughout bath. Maybe 2-3 degrees deviations if the heating is extreme.
Never thought of that I always let it sit on the bottom and never had an issue even in larger batches but I'm glad you pointed that out so I can pay more attention to the temps and see if it's warmer on the bottom or if the stirring is sufficient, which I think it has been. I've been a fan of you for a while Darien lol good to see us energetics guys all hang out in the same spots.
@@duganashley1337 Very cool. I use cheap hotplates so I have to be a little more careful.
@@bobbyc2768 Thanks, I'll have more videos coming soon. I think Dugan really hit this video out of the park though. 😀
dont make me blush darian @@darianballard2074
@christopherleubner6633 - 2023-12-17
One very neat thing to do with RDX is to mix with a small amount of aluminum powder and graphite and bind it with a sparing amount silicone or another plastic such as PVC. This makes it moldable and very insensitive. However, using a small capacitor it can be easily detonated without needing a blasting cap. About 1kV at 5uF or so delivered by a high speed switch with about 1mm electrode spacing at the surface of the charge. Have a blast ❤
@duganashley1337 - 2023-12-17
Interesting, thanks! Will have to do a video on some various PBXs sometime.
@duganashley1337 - 2023-12-30
this channel is for people over 18 years old@@pazsion
@TheRokwood1 - 2024-05-08
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@comrademonke5934 - 2024-05-17
are you sure that RDX can be detonated by electric shock instead of lead azide, I had done some research in the past and all of the answers said it's semi impossible, so idk.
@christopherleubner6633 - 2024-05-30
@@comrademonke5934yup the plasma and shockwave will detonate it reliably. What happenes is the aluminum and graphite conduct and form an arc. The pressure wave fron the arc plus the extreme heat detonate the RDX bulk material. The capacitor must be low ESR, wiring must be heavy and the switch must be fast.❤