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Lab Notes - Alternative glassware protection for sodium production (Successful) - August 31st 2018

NurdRage - 2018-08-31

In this lab notes videos we explore alternative means to protect glassware for the sodium production reaction.

Slow heating with aluminum powder proved very effective. But lithium metal was determined to work best.

Related Videos: 
Previous lab notes on making sodium: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=av4zfDV5Mng

Previous very crappy video on getting lithium from an energizer battery: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BliWUHSOalU

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Alexander Martínez Pasek - 2018-08-31

This man has expanded the amateur chemist community, deserves a lot of recognition

Tinsoldier - 2018-08-31

I enjoy all of your videos but this R&D series is some of the most interesting stuff you've done imho.

NurdRage - 2018-08-31

Currently testing various alcohols, most don't work, and the few that do stop working before all the sodium is converted. Still investigating.

Anthony M - 2018-09-01

NurdRage
I really enjoy these "Alchemy" of sodium metal production videos!

Jason Enns - 2018-09-01

James Van Daele Not specifically sodium chloride but different salts an example formic acid or acetic acid

Anthony M - 2018-09-03

Tom

bormisha - 2018-09-08

You said an amateur can make the necessary alcohols. Perhaps you could refine the alcohol-making process to be easily accessible instead of trying to find replacement alcohols?

pexe666 - 2018-10-20

You could also try fly traps and cleaning up a bit.

Askander Shaikh - 2018-08-31

wow, the beggining of this project was a total mess but u kept on it and u made it happen, thank you for being so devoted to chemistry and spending all of this time to science

Mercury - 2018-08-31

I don’t own any neighbors so I think I am fine but the people who live next to me might get upset

Nicholas Feeley - 2018-08-31

"The next major problem I wanted to address is perhaps the most important of all..."

I was so expecting you to talk about flies.

Cody'sLab - 2018-09-01

Could we use stainless steel for the vessel?

Jacob Ellinger - 2018-09-02

or at the least make the bottom stainless and the top glass.

Taboo Saboo - 2018-09-03

That's why?! I was wondering too.. magnetic stirrer. Wouldn't have guessed.
Hey, could sodium oxide be heated in a fruit can with hydrogen gas?

Libor Tinka - 2018-09-05

What about an overhead stirrer? I found a cheap one on eBay and the standard stirrer can be exchanged for PTFE one. I got even PTFE stirrer stopper with seal, though I am not sure about its life span for heavy duty applications like yours. I use the overhead stirrer routinely for mixing dense solutions because I got frustrated of the stirbar just wiggling on the edge...

bormisha - 2018-09-08

Askor200, the eddy currents will definitely absorb a large fraction of the magnetic field, since the very nature of the eddy currents is to cancel the external magnetic field. Though, if the named steel is a poor conductor, chances are that the residual field that gets through would be sufficient for driving the stir bar.

Blim The Toolman - 2019-01-26

NurdRage what about having a top down motor controlling a stir rod being connected by a rod? That way you can use stainless and still mix.

Matt Goebel - 2018-08-31

Oh man, the dead fly aside makes for some good belly laughs!

Muhammad Ismail Bin Rosani - 2018-09-30

Hahahahahahha

Léon the Professional - 2018-08-31

I admire your work! It is so satisfying to see the spheres of pure sodium!

UnitSe7en - 2018-09-01

I'm not a chemist, but I subscribe because I like watching magic.

dontlikemath -.- - 2018-08-31

8:35 well..you could use lithium metal to dry—




Oh.

Aleksandros Georgios - 2018-09-09

Red foshfor iodin in cristal methanol ,
Psefgoefedrine hidrohlorid and sulfat
Taylen syper izy proces hitler meth!!!

李智 - 2018-09-09

what
lol.
i think i know what that means

Yata Garasu - 2018-08-31

freakin bug whisperer man

Muhammad Ismail Bin Rosani - 2018-09-30

Haahhahahaah

Justin Lee - 2018-08-31

I don't suppose you'd consider having an "organic" corner of your lab for a venus fly trap or something? Just a thought hahaha, keep up the good work man, love seeing the progress being made!!

李智 - 2018-09-09

lol u have chinese name!!

CrimFerret - 2018-08-31

This has been and is a really cool and interesting project. The more so because you aren't just demonstrating an already documented process, but developing something new. I think it would neat if one of the other amatuer chemistry channels like Nile Red or Cody's Lab ran this process to demonstrate that it could be indepentently dublicated. Not because I don't think it works, but doing that is an important part of discoveries in research science and besides, I'm sure they can always use some extra sodium metal for some experiment or other. One question (which may have touched on) Would this process work to make potassium metal as well from potassium hydroxide?

ngozumpa - 2018-09-02

This method was originally used to obtain K if I'm not wrong. It's actually easier with K than Na.

Explosions&Fire - 2018-09-03

birdrage <3

Seven Proxies - 2018-08-31

The most successful chemists in history... Were also a bit insane. ;)

GRBTutorials - 2018-08-31

Seven Proxies I remember reading a story about a chemist (A. G. Streng) that was completely mad. He made FOOF (dioxygen diflouride), an extremely explosive compound, and, as if that wasn’t enough, he did all sorts of experiments on it (with obvious conclusions), and lived to tell it! More details at http://blogs.sciencemag.org/pipeline/archives/2010/02/23/things_i_wont_work_with_dioxygen_difluoride.

Definitely, the best is an intermediate level of madness.

Angel Bunny - 2018-08-31

You succeeded in getting the reaction you wanted without destroying your glass and still kept on trying to get the initial sodium charge without damaging glass. That is some serious dedication to the community and extremely selfless work. Seems like every week you remind us what a decent person you are! Great vid and thank you for sharing all this.

The Chemical Workshop - 2018-08-31

pay few buck for lithium batteries or pay few bucks for a flask
Plan B is always good

Morgan Sinclair - 2018-09-01

"Am I known in the insect world as the Doctor Kevorkian of depressed critters?!"
loses it, just loses it
Thank you, I really needed a laugh!

Muhammad Ismail Bin Rosani - 2018-09-30

😂😂😂😂😂😂

Chris Zahrte - 2018-09-01

"The Doctor Kevorkian of depressed critters" lol!

Edward Nardella - 2018-08-31

These videos are very interesting, keep up the good work!

Seven Proxies - 2018-08-31

Haha! So funny, just as you mentioned the failures using a beaker, the very first thought that came to my mind was trying a mason jar. XD

terminate - 2018-08-31

It was funny how at random "hey is that a dead fly in my bubbler?"

bormisha - 2018-09-08

"Is that a dead fly in my bubbler?" What a nice choleric outbreak! :)

Taboo Saboo - 2018-09-03

When I'm worried about breaking jars, I heat them in a metal pot, to contain the spill and shatter.

Stephen Scanlon - 2018-08-31

"The Dark Souls of chemistry" - Polygon

Matthias B. - 2018-08-31

Are you sure that the damage to the flask is chemical and not mechanical (by the very hard aluminium oxide coating on the metal)? It's hard to tell on camera.

I like this - 2018-08-31

Matthias B. It looks more like glass being dissolved. Besides that the oxide it does not seem to have much force being pushed into the glass. At least not enough to damage it. Last point, it would be odd for it to only scratch an asymmetrical area of it,

Diego Bravo Troncoso - 2018-08-31

Hey NurdRage great video as always! but now that I'm actually free from my semester and don't have to deal with physical chemistry anymore, the first thing that I wondered watching the video is what are you doing with the side products of the reaction. Is there a way to recover some of the starting material or it just goes all straight into waste? And on that note, are the wastes relatively clean or they need to be treated for toxicity or something?

I've already said it in the begining but great video as always, seeing your work inspires me to keep going on my career and you were actually the one who made me pick it in first place! Good luck on keeping the optimization

WrenagadeWorkshop - 2018-08-31

This series is great, it's all way over my head but I really enjoy watching the processes and reactions.

wampirabbit - 2018-08-31

It's too mainstream for Nurdrage to use sodium hydroxide as a base, so he uses it as an acid. To dissolve another alkali metal!

JJ - 2019-03-22

I’m Trang to get into this kind of stuff I’ve always been fascinated by the world around us and is the language it speaks in.

SuperAngelofglory - 2018-08-31

Could silver coating the glassware help ? As far as I remember, you did show how to do that

Morlanius - 2018-08-31

Fantastic work! one thing ... ever thought about cleaning or replacing that manky stir-bar?

The ElectroMechanic - 2018-08-31

I love this new lab notes format!
Keep up the good work!:)

Shadowphyre - 2018-08-31

I damn love your videos, studying chemistry and those vids help a lot. I even showed your vids to my teachers and they like them. A LOT.

Nexfero - 2018-09-03

9:11 lol there's a dead fly floating around in your glassware. Insects are attracted to the strangest things, my uranium glass collection is full of dead flies.

sorphin - 2018-09-01

"and NOW to conquer the next major problem.. HOW TO KEEP BUGS OUT OF MY APPARATUS." is what he didn't say.. but should have...

Pekka Saarinen - 2018-08-31

Your main job must be growing flies (for some obscure reason). Every video seems to have some.
Or maybe they are just runaways from your upcoming biology experiment videos. 😁

Georg Wagner - 2018-08-31

Wow I actually thought about Lithium metal from batteries, about 10 seconds before you said it :D

Mohd Aradi - 2018-09-01

A moment of silence for all the destroyed glassware ,
and would like to thank them for their services .

Adriaan Zwiebel - 2018-08-31

Ever since your initial production I owe you the world!

Although I can obtain Sodium metal through other means (*cough cough* friends of friends), it's not as reliable as the initial thermal production.
I believe your research into this topic is of vital important to our community

Thank you!

Kristian B Lerche - 2018-08-31

Interesting as always - Thank you

hax withaxe - 2018-08-31

A white background would be helpful behind the flasks in the damage comparison.

WethereX - 2018-08-31

@11:04 for that freakin fly!

Tim Cline - 2018-08-31

Thank you so much for showing your process with this project. I have learned far more from you and Nile red then I ever did with my horrible chemistry treachery. That was both informative and hilarious. Stupid suicidal flies.

Scrap Science - 2018-08-31

Awesome stuff! Can't wait for a how-to video.

Anthony M - 2018-09-01

NurdRage
I enjoy these "Alchemy" of sodium metal production videos!

Dustin Smith - 2018-08-31

9:20 Chemplayer flashbacks

屮艸芔茻 - 2018-08-31

DEAD FLY IN MY BUBBLER!

Muhammad Ismail Bin Rosani - 2018-09-30

😂😂😂😂😂

doodr - 2018-09-02

lmao at the fly, there is a bug in the system!

Lou B. - 2018-08-31

soooo how about damage-proofing the flask by « plating » it? (like the silver mirror but with a metal that may be impervious to NaOH - copper maybe?)

kmarasin - 2018-08-31

He said in a previous video that the stirring and metal present world quickly wreck a silver coating, and tougher coatings are beyond the reach of the amateur.