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Japan's Post-War Meth Panic (& How They Stopped It) | Audio

Asianometry - 2023-10-03

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@FRISHR - 2023-10-03

“JISUKE WE NEED TO COOK!” —Hiroshiberg

@the80hdgaming - 2023-10-03

😂😂😂

@atomic_wait - 2023-10-04

I would offer Heisenyama as an alternative

@josephkelly4893 - 2023-10-04

Nice

@Darwinsfinch78 - 2023-10-04

Very clever it made me laugh

@ricardokowalski1579 - 2023-10-04

I bow to your cleverness.

@z-e-r-o- - 2023-10-04

アジアノメトリーの鹿さんの守備範囲、広すぎ😂👍 EUVからヒロポンまで… ほんと尊敬しちゃうわ〜。
ちなみに、黒澤明の『天国と地獄(High & Low)』では、戦後の横浜のドラッグ闇市が描かれています。

@arostwocents - 2024-02-04

That's a great name for a book about drug addiction

@outdoorlifemaine6691 - 2024-03-27

so cute lines

@thegreenpotato1 - 2023-10-04

Almost transparet blue, by Ryu Murakami, is a great read for anyone intrested in a first hand account of how life was like for a group of addicted teenagers and young adults growing up in the post-war USA occupied Japan.

@theterminaldave - 2023-10-06

Added to my reading list thanks!

Have to recommend something i'm reading right now...
The WindUp Girl by Paolo Bacigalupi
sci-fi future dsytopia set in a future Thailand where the tech lacks electronics and is all based in biological applications of genetic science.
The landscape the book paints is so good I feel like I'm eating, not just reading.

@khalidalali186 - 2023-10-07

Wow, thanks! A world devoid of fossil fuels, and filled with bioengineering. Now that’s the perfect read for someone living in Arabia, all the way in West Asia. 🫡

@theterminaldave - 2023-10-08

@@khalidalali186 I like your description of the book more than mine (:

@fangshing - 2023-10-17

The later volumes of Barefoot Gen by Keiji Nakazawa also show what it was like growing up in that time. The author himself said he based everything in the manga after things that really happened, both to him and to others.

@arostwocents - 2024-02-04

Sounds like Hiroshiberg was active there too.

@hrvstmusic - 2023-10-04

First time I’ve seen glue sniffing on a drug use graph

@bob456fk6 - 2023-10-04

Several years ago I saw a report on serious glue sniffing in a Central American country.
The manufacturer of the glue was heavily criticized for not putting a de-naturent in glue sold in that country while they did de-nature the glue sold in the US. That made it impossible to sniff glue in the US without getting sick.

@Ren505nm - 2023-10-10

Not Elmer's glue 😂😂😂

@mgg7756 - 2023-10-13

Makes sense though. It gets you high and people do it.

@escalanteti0 - 2024-02-22

third world issues in a first world perception

@Ggfddjbgd - 2024-03-09

The stuff they selling on streets is poison

@TheDavidlloydjones - 2023-10-04

In the 1970's, Japan's illicit drug of choice was "sinnarz," paint thinner. Anybody could buy a litre of the stuff at any hardware store for about 250 yen, or in a little brown energy-drink bottle, several thousand yen for 180 grams. Do the math: the gangsters pouring the big bottles into the small ones were making out quite nicely, thank you very much.
I visited the campus of University of Tokyo back then. The surface of their campus lake was littered with plastic bags -- thrown there, I'm reliably told, by people who had used them as breathing bags, to inhale thinners from.

@derpinbird1180 - 2023-10-04

Wow thats bad. Why didn't the kids just buy it themselves and avoid criminals altogether though? was it an image thing?

@menjolno - 2023-10-04

correlation = causation comment 🤦

@lasskinn474 - 2023-10-04

@@derpinbird1180 branding kind of? people like to inhale what they learned even if it makes no sense.

@gtc239 - 2023-10-04

​@@menjolnoStop spamming, dipsh*t.

@seanrowshandel1680 - 2023-10-04

The thing about the video which is fishy is that it's much more likely for methamphetamine (which occurs in nature more commonly than amphetamine) not to have been synthesized "by some German guy first, in the 1800s" (especially since Ephedra, which is famous among even Mormons, has been around for such a long time). Amphetamine is just a "purer and better version" of the compound than methamphetamine (it takes more steps to make it, and it's harder to have come up with a way to make it). I'm sure that the non-Islamic alchemists had already explored this frontier long ago (and nowadays we say that they acted in vain and merely wanted to make gold, in order to prevent the Muslims from finding out what they really discovered). Strangely, we don't even know whether it's safe for a patient to take a racemic (or, famously, 75:25) formulation of amphetamine. I'm not even a chemist, it's just obvious. There's research which supports this "hierarchy of amphetamines" with methamphetamine at the bottom: there's a learning/neuroplasticity protein the production of which is induced by amphetamine but suppressed by methamphetamine. Oddly enough, it results in the opening of a calcium channel which initiates apoptosis if signaling is strong enough (if I'm not mistaken). In other words, methamphetamine is more neuroprotective than amphetamine, and it's more lipophilic and probably reaches more areas of the brain and more blood vessels within the brain. There's a lot of nonsense research nowadays because we JUST REALIZED THAT WE failed to prevent the Muslims from finding out what we were doing for the past 65 years (after they dismantled the USSR and suddenly created a generation of "interracial" children). Just look at methylphenidate: they said it was a reuptake inhibitor, and now they're saying it was a releaser the whole time (this was done in order to prevent leaks of useful information, and to prevent any "homesteading" on their part). Sure, it was "chill" to take it easy on the "adult beverages" and begin to take amphetamines every day, just to prove to the younger generations that we do, indeed, exist. However, it certainly didn't "make a dent in Islam's tank" when we "threw that rock [of amphetamine into our stomach every morning]". And the worst part is the way that it changed the way that calcium was "trafficked, stored, sequestered, etc" in our brains.

These dopaminergics can't help productivity like many people say that they do, unless someone has been abducted: they increase the productivity of people who have been abducted, but they don't really make normal people WORK. Every time someone from a big criminal family does something which he can't explain (and then he needs to run from the detectives and cops, and thinks he has a limited amount of time before they catch him and then he goes to prison FOREVER), he runs off and makes a batch of methamphetamine or LSD to fund his retreat/escape/relaxation/sanity. That's why it's illegal to make it: because these aren't necessarily BAD/Muslim families (they actually believe in parenting, and when they reproduce, they DO parenting, and participate in the community, and the children see them as ADULTS, and any responsibilities which come along with being "ADULTS", well... THEY FULFULL ALL OF THOSE RESPONSIBILITIES because they're not developmentally retarded)

Japan, like America, is scary because they aren't concerned with hiding How Much They "Culturally" Respect Their Elders, and any 35-year old with the mind of a 5-year-old can get younger people to all bow to him when they greet him ("because it's part of their culture"), and they are "groomed" to accept such an invalid as their gang-leader. It's like being a Muslim, except Less Safe. No wonder they like stimulants.. to be honest, that's All They Ever Had. I hope people like me can open their hearts to care about Japan/America/Greenland/England (because it's obvious that nobody has ever done it before).

@jojoanggono3229 - 2023-10-04

Now I know where the name "Shabu" came from. In 90s I saw some of my friends who were addicted to meth. It changes their behaviour, personality, and impacted their body functions. It tooks many years to rehab back to normal.

@menjolno - 2023-10-04

correlation = causation comment. also stop exaggerating

@TheonormalMBV - 2023-10-04

South East Asian I assume?

@teodorferseta8254 - 2023-10-04

@@menjolno Most of the time a correlation is there because of a causal relationship. Taking meth and experiencing the side effects of meth is a blatant example of that.

@josephgee2515 - 2023-10-04

​@@menjolnoIts known as the most potent form of meth, often purple in color due to the most potent ingredients our government banned to try and curb production of.

@fredd3.14 - 2023-10-04

pure methamphetamine is white powder or clear crystals. if there was any color it was added on purpose or due to impurites. this isn't breaking bad! @@josephgee2515

@aynsley544 - 2023-10-04

I think the name 'Hiropon' comes from "hiro" (tiredness or fatigue) and "pon" (throw away). So, "Fatigue — Out!"

@LatitudeSky - 2023-10-04

It can also be a joke. Used to know a girl named Hiroko. When she would go hyper and have a lot of energy, we would say she had "Hiro-pon Power" and everyone laughed. There was no stigma. It was just funny.

@AllisterCaine - 2023-10-04

But... Wasn't the emperor called hirohito? So how das that translate? I know in Japanese the same words often have different meanings... But I don't know japanese at all... 😅

@aynsley544 - 2023-10-04

@AllisterCaine The last-but-one emperor's personal name was indeed Hirohito, but Japanese would never call him "Emperor Hirohito". When he assumed the imperial throne he became simply "The Emperor". When he died he became "Emperoro Shōwa", named after the year period that commenced with the first year of his reign.

@danvol3835 - 2023-10-07

Apparently "hirou [fatigue]"+"pon [onomatopoeia for bouncing or tossing]" is often attributed, but, as the video states, the manufacturer's intent was to use Greek "philo [love]"+"ponos [work]", meaning a medicine that will make you love your work.

@ayemane2828 - 2024-03-13

Fatigue away xD

@dylhas1 - 2023-10-08

Great video. This has always been one of the more fascinating consequences of WWII that people don’t seem to know.

@anthonygato407 - 2023-10-08

its been said that ww2 was the battle of the stimulants. Germany and Japan with their meth vs USA with their amphetamine. the USA soldiers supposedly performed better because the amphetamine allowed them to sleep eventually while the meth soldiers kept on driving into exhaustion and delusions.

@mewhenimdrunknhigh5001 - 2023-10-13

​@@anthonygato407 Wow, that's an interesting aspect. Of course amphetamine can also keep you up "indefinitely"* if you take it repeatedly, but it's metabolic half life is significantly lower than meth's, and a "reasonable" dose taken in the morning won't rob you of sleep at night.

* I can tell you from personal experience that repeated amphetamine use - I took it when I was frantically trying to reach a deadline on an academic paper - can mess with your psyche. I slept very little and badly over the course of several days, and I ended up with auditory hallucinations. The ambient music I was listening to while writing kept on playing after I turned off my PC. And I'm sure things would've deteriorated further had I kept on taking speed. Scary times.

@TylerHorton-qq8jd - 2023-10-17

Ive had audio ones too and they jus trash talk me im glad its not scary lol but for reasons i dont get much sleep

@Mansikkacake - 2023-10-22

I just randomly watched this video rn and this is the most useful one this week for sure.

@agentbubbles782 - 2023-11-10

War on drugs worked because japan nipped it in the bud before it got out of control. Didn't work in America because they let it get out of hand

@deckape714 - 2023-10-04

I love your work please keep at it. Thanks!

@AnthemUnanthemed - 2023-10-04

there is a decent amount of miss-info in this vid, they knew stims were addictive, for a long time they knew about cocaine at this point, they had opium going everywhere and knew that was addictive, there have been numerous times governments and companies turned around and feigned ignorance, to avoid being held liable.
Meth is also still sold as an OTC cough suppressant in america, so long as its the weaker version. Also claiming that meth may have been a cause in heart failure is fairly ignorant and can also be attributed to genetics, or coffee, while coffee isnt as toxic, it is and was used more freely than meth, and probably for longer, which can cause the same amount of toxicity as a shorter term meth habit you picked up only after the war.
The continued onslaught of "meth is bad" content normally fails to actually dig into any treatment methods, and normally stick to history, unfortunately due to the amount of lies surrounding this topic you cannot get an idea of anything that happened, so Im glad you actually included that this normally effected the lower classes, but "police putting the law into action" and it "lacking teeth" is extremely counter to harm reduction, this can be seen in the fact that it became used more immediately after prohibition, as well as the rise of crime surrounding the drugs, thus demonizing the people who are SUFFERING from a well known mental health issue known as Substance Use Disorder should never have been locked in a cage for being sick.
Notice how every time laws were put in place it was too keep out impure thoughts or evil other races, and not specifically to help the public, it always had to be against certain groups of people, funny enough at around the same time the iran-contra movement was in full swing, were america (the cunts who hid japanise war crimes after ww2) was throwing as much cocaine and its freebase into black communities to fund weapon shipments to rebel groups in iran and south america, this has always had racists political motivation, it was almost never health motivated, if it was people would be using harm reduction methods like the Swiss did in the 90s, or like peru rn, or like some states rn who are doing decriminalization and legalization of certain substances because legal intervention does not help medical issues, canada is doing the same thing, columbia is trying to get these sorts of laws passed hell there is a video of the ex president of Columbia (could be wrong here may have been another southamerican country with a lot of cartels) who admitted the only reason for the constant demonetization of substances was because it was the only way the public would listen to a topic, and effectivly the public needed to be carefully de-radicalized (the debait was with Hamilton Moris its on yt), I would also like to recommend looking up Dr. Carl Hart, MAPS is also a great research organization that has picked up the good work with mdma that was nearly lost during the 70s when america tried to bury it all, Harvard medical also has some really great addiction studies, hell most universities have stopped producing bullshit that could be misconstrued as danger for the american gov (like that time they used meth instead of mdma and made a bunch of monkeys od, then said "ehh it likely doesnt matter", spoiler alert, it very much did matter, and the amount of mdma that would have been used would not have killed the monkeys, because meth is far more toxic then mdma).
Please please please do research into addiction, expecially as an asian based channel there was a good period where the west was using these same tactics except with opium instead of meth, to demonize asian people and culture, while simultaneously trying to get all of the asians in the country addicted, via a revolving door of abuse, first from people that makes you depressed enough to use, then the torture and inhumane conditions in jail get to you, and now that you have PTSD and ur a "criminal", you are weird, and sick, and wont be allowed to rent a house because no one wants to rent to you, making you more depressed, driving you further into addiction, until people wake the fuck up and allow you to seek medical intervention.

Please do your research on drugs this hurts far far too many people to be misrepresented or to have bits of the story thrown out so you can shorten a youtube vid.
Also please ignore my username, I'm gonna change it soon, its vestigial from PTSD induced paranoia of writing my name on the internet.

@IamNiggler - 2024-03-12

I'm gay too buddy

@skinny5771 - 2024-03-29

@@IamNiggler🫃

@ntabile - 2023-10-04

No wonder, shabu originated in Japan. This scourge once hit the Philippines and created unnecessary street executions due to rampant drug pushing and addiction.

@hugodesrosiers-plaisance3156 - 2023-10-04

As an absolute cinema geek and long time fan of Kurosawa's work, you've just given me part the backstory to much of his earlier movies (Drunken Angel, High and Low, Stray Dog...), a subject which I would never have thought to look up myself. Thanks!

@garrysekelli6776 - 2023-10-06

What about the kamekaze pilots? Were they high on amphetamine?

@_Tizoc_ - 2023-10-06

@@garrysekelli6776 most of the wehrmacht and ss were (ever wonder why Einsatzgruppen were as brutal as they were?). Americans were on Dexedrine. The use of chemical stimulants was a huge part of the conflict the world over.

@garrysekelli6776 - 2023-10-06

@@_Tizoc_ agreed. I thought that those were more of an issue during the first world war . The great war. Although the issue probably extended into the second ww as well.

@jasonmoser8957 - 2023-10-06

I watched a doc in Japan where they interviewed a woman who as a child worked in a factory where they made special 'chocolates' for the kamikaze - they didn't know what they were made of at the time but were warned about any tasting. @@garrysekelli6776

@kingterry6045 - 2023-10-06

@@_Tizoc_ Oh please that's such an obvious lie lmao, there was issued amphetamine to German soldiers but there's zero proof outside hearsay from historical revisionists. It's the same stupid lie around Zyklon B as if it wasn't a delousing agent.

@LifeofBrad1 - 2023-10-04

I'm pretty sure "shabu" actually translates to "swish", hence the Japanese hotpot named "shabu-shabu", which translates to "swish-swish" because you swish thin slices of meat around in the boiling broth to cook them. I actually had no idea "shabu" alone meant meth. I said it to a Japanese guy I knew years ago and he said "Huh? You mean shabu-shabu, right? Because shabu is slang for meth in Japan". Crazy how just leaving out the second shabu completely changes what you're referring to. Interestingly, it goes by the same name in the Philippines. My guess is the Japanese brought it over there during the occupation in WWII, the locals heard them referring to it as "shabu", so that's what they began calling it also.

@chillphil967 - 2023-10-04

that’s an interesting story, and cool point. 1). in my minds eye, when you described “swish swish” i see bacon sizzling in a hot greasy pan. then i think of those infamous mtv 1990s anti drug commercials “this is your brain - this is your brain on drugs!”
anyway maybe the meat frying is like the brain sizzling into a frenzied, chaotic state. or maybe i just skipped breakfast and am thinking about bacon too much lol.

@feelincrispy7053 - 2023-10-04

In Thailand and such it’s spelt shaboo I believe. At least that’s the way I’ve seen it spelt

@The_Conspiracy_Analyst - 2023-10-04

Yes, but Tagalog uses reduplication to put emphasis on something. I got a big kick out of seeing a sign for a restaurant in Pampanga that said "Shabu Shabu".

@marw9541 - 2023-10-05

"Shabu, a slang term for the drug methamphetamine used in Japan, Hong Kong, Philippines, Malaysia, Indonesia, and Saudi Arabia, possibly from the verb しゃぶる (shaburu, 'to suck on something'), from the way that the addictiveness of the drugs sucks in the user."

@natthaphonhongcharoen - 2023-10-05

@@feelincrispy7053 It's pronounced and written in Thai as shaboo but pretty much all of them romanized as shabu

@DonnDenisse - 2023-11-22

I could remember some years ago meth addiction actually destroyed my life. I also suffered severe depression and mental disorder. Not until my wife recommended me to psilocybin mushrooms treatment. Psilocybin treatment saved my life honestly. 2 years totally clean. Never thought I would be saying this about mushrooms.

@ErnestoHorner88 - 2023-11-22

Can you help with the reliable source I would really appreciate it. Many people talk about mushrooms and psychedelics but nobody talks about where to get them. Very hard to get a reliable source here in Germany. Really need!

@gefferystones2814 - 2023-11-22

How do I reach out to him? Is he on insta

@ChristopherEric-fr8im - 2023-11-22

Microdosing helped me get out of the pit of my worst depressive episode, a three year long episode, enough to start working on my mental health.

@PriscillaLogan-by9ll - 2023-11-22

Does he ship? Can he deliver to me here in northern Ireland 🇮🇪

@Ksl9393 - 2023-11-28

Can you guys ship it to “my ass”? Plsss?

@UsmanBello - 2023-10-09

I remember in the mid-1990s of a "weight loss" supplement called Oxycut whose first ingredient was ephedrine, which is derived from 麻黄 (or "Ma Huang"). I considered taking this supplement until my mother (who was fluent in written Traditional Chinese) pointed out that Ma Huang is a stimulant that can cause the heart muscles to malfunction and lead to various ailments like hypertension and arrythmia. I took her advice and did not take it.

@ostrich67 - 2023-10-09

Another weight loss supplement was Metabolife. I was taking that in the late 90s; I didn't lose any weight but man I was angry a lot. It also spiked my blood pressure.

@christopheralan6327 - 2023-10-10

Hydroxycut

@ostrich67 - 2023-10-14

@@alllove1754 Herbal crank, is what it was.

@alanfike - 2023-10-21

Ma Huang has since been outlawed for sale in the United States. I know this because I worked at GNC when we still sold Xenadrine, Hydroxycut, Ripped Fuel, etc. Yes, each one of these products had the herb you described as the primary, but certainly not only, ingredient. They were also extremely effective and popular, but still at the risk of people dying or having long-term heart problems. I've taken it myself, and even the Ma Huang in the lesser known brands was very strong.

Now such supplements, known as thermogenics, use caffeine as their stimulant, and I understand that some of them are still around in that capacity.

You have to understand, it worked well and you knew it worked at least to stimulate you from the first pill. But it also showed results in weight loss, so it was probably the most popular category of product that GNC sold. The stores I worked at mainly sold two categories despite covering basically all areas of health from vitamins to shakes: it was either protein shakes for muscle growth, or thermogenic tablets. It's what people asked for.

But at the end it the day, it really is unsafe to use on a regular basis, and I've met a customer who got a stroke from one.

@squirlmy - 2023-10-21

Even before that, ephedra was popular among body builders and "fitness" fanatics. There was a "stack" of caffeine, aspirin and ephedra that was supposed to be great for losing weight, without too much caffeine jitters or uncomfortable ephedra side-effects Now, on the internet I see lots of "stacks" of various supplements recommended. Also, I think regulations against ephedra were mainly to keep them out of the hands of meth makers, I don't think the safety factors were considered alone. I'm rather cynical about such regulations, because I see so many harmful and even addictive substances are ignored, the process is politicized at best, maybe even rife with corruption.

@sapphiron21 - 2023-10-04

Even modern Japan still glorifies the harsh work culture where falling asleep from exhaustion on public transport or even at work is considered a point of pride so its no wonder these drugs take roots so deeply

@ebx100 - 2023-10-04

First time I had to excuse myself after being in a meeting for 12 consecutive hours.

@Jay-vt1mw - 2023-10-04

i wouldn't draw that conclusion when there's very few country's that don't have deep drug use problems or alcohol.

@pibob7880 - 2023-10-04

Now we know how they managed.

@AnthemUnanthemed - 2023-10-04

its almost like it might have been enforced addiction on the poor, who were often minorities

@musaran2 - 2023-10-04

Manga/anime still casually show people downing loads of stimulants.

@olipito - 2023-10-08

It's crazy the amount of stuff I learn on your channel! Thank you

@MyTv- - 2023-10-04

Very interesting, informative and disturbing. Also makes me remember, how Honda started to just drink sake after the war, until his wife called him lazy and made him mount engines on bicycles.

Thanks for a really great video!

@menjolno - 2023-10-05

Irrelevent bot comment, how is "honda" and "sake" related to the video?

@MyTv- - 2023-10-05

@@menjolno Exact same postwar period in Japan. Exact same dissolution. If you’re ever read a real academic history book it’s common to broaden the picture to broaden the understanding.
Unlike the crap your served in school before university.

@jamescarter3196 - 2023-10-05

@@MyTv-Let's not turn a pointless person's question into a really-stupid attempt to bash public schools like some kind of entitled jackoff

@varnix1006 - 2023-10-06

History should be viewed as narrative chapters instead of topic chapters. Only then people will realize that history is closer to each other than it's depiction in school history books.

@MyTv- - 2023-10-06

@@varnix1006 Actually been thinking about how abysmal history schoolbooks are. It takes a very engaged and talented teacher, who’s not afraid to deviate from the curriculum to make it work.

@OzMat - 2023-10-04

I have witnessed the tragic affect that solvent/glue/petrol, gas sniffing has had on people in the UK, Europe and Australia. In extreme but too common a case it causes the central nervous system to all but shut down leaving the addict in a bed ridden vegetative state requiring 24 hour care for the rest of their life.
It got so bad in central Australian Aboriginal communities that it is illegal to sell petrol or gasoline in these communities, requiring all vehicles and machinery to be diesel powered . The sight of Aboriginal children and teenagers walking around with a petrol or solvent filled container hang around their necks so that they could get an all day buzz was once common. The tragic end of life when lighting up a cigarette was not unheard of. It's the cheapest nastiest form of high.

@menjolno - 2023-10-04

correlation = causation comment

@ThePowerLover - 2023-10-04

@@menjolnoRead Hume.

@dinte215 - 2023-10-04

​@@menjolnoin everything related to drugs I always see these comments that dismiss people experiences without addressing their concern.

I'm starting to believe these accounts are been run by street pushers and cartels. Yes the mexican and other South American drug cartels have propaganda departments (they do everything from publishing beheading of critics and opponents, sell shirts glorifying drugs, cartel bosses and condemning govs.) Latin America is wild man.

@ash-is-napping - 2023-10-04

@@Rubicola174only if the rest of Australia can recognise their worth and stop treating them like second class citizens 😢

@poetryflynn3712 - 2023-10-04

Do you not get high off diesel?

@lawrenceshadai4966 - 2023-10-04

A really underrated channel !

@menjolno - 2023-10-04

It is really overrated. The author puts unrelated political stuff along side other stuff

@fredd3.14 - 2023-10-04

just skip the political videos, i do. who cares @@menjolno

@menjolno - 2023-10-04

@@fredd3.14 hypocrite

@fredd3.14 - 2023-10-04

i dont think that word means what you think it means @@menjolno

@blackflagnation - 2023-10-04

My uncle fought for the Japanese military in WW2 as a 15 year old. We used to go visit him, my grandmother, and aunt a lot as children. One day he was cleaning out his back room, and he showed me these tiny glass viles in a wood case still with liquid in them. He told me it was ヒロポン. He said he never took any of them because he was afraid to do so.

@janoplt - 2023-10-04

ヒロポン = cyanide. That is why he did not take... :)
(if you mix English with characters of another language, then don't be surprised if I translate it like this. I don't know why you don't write it in Latin...)

@plumebrise4801 - 2023-10-05

But you needed to be atleast 17 year old (17 to 40 years old at the time ,nowadays it's 18 to 32 years old) to be in the Japanese military so ...

@changedhandle86 - 2023-10-06

@plumebrise4801 The Japanese Imperial Army drafted 15 year olds for the defense of Honshu in March 1945, and may have conscripted even younger boys for the defense of Okinawa months earlier

@BussyBoyBonanza - 2023-10-07

@@plumebrise4801They literally used children soldiers in WWII out of desperation you have no fucking clue what you're talking about

@rageius - 2023-10-08

​@@plumebrise4801there's record of a gi killing a 12 or 13 year old sniper at Okinawa

@dewinmoonl - 2023-10-04

chinese here . . . so THATS why mahuang was (banned in U.S.)
edit: were told we shouldn't bring that out of the country or it'll be annoying at the customs

when I was a kid we used it all the time to clear up a cogged nose. it works better than anything. 1 drop of that thing was like a drain cleaner that drips right into your sinuses and you can breath free immediately.

little did I know it was also possible to synthesize meth from it haha.

@floycewhite6991 - 2023-10-04

Pseudoephedrine is available over the counter, but in California the buyer must be 21 and show identification.

@andrewduff2048 - 2023-10-04

ephedra or mahuang was common in supplements for weight loss and its use was banned due to safety concerns, it was linked to rare heart related deaths in young women. It's not illegal to have or use, just to market as a supplement. I don't know much about customs but I've heard it being hard to bring fruit through customs and I think that would be true for most plants. I would bet their was quite a difference between the raw plant and the supplements "containing" ephedra which weren't regulated. Supplements in the U.S. are kind of a mess.

@vulpo - 2023-10-04

@@andrewduff2048 A big deal was made about the safety of ephedra, but the risks were somewhat exaggerated to get the public on board with banning it. The real reason it was banned was to prevent meth heads from making methamphetamine from it. The ban worked for a while and meth usage went way down. Unfortunately smuggling from Mexico eventually filled the gap.

@AnthemUnanthemed - 2023-10-04

@@andrewduff2048 USA customs are different, they dont just make drugs illegal, they also make all of the products needed to synth it illegal, it still doesnt work

@AnthemUnanthemed - 2023-10-04

@@sparklesparklesparkle6318 hey listen Im really sorry for you but you should really do research into actual addiction treatment as american insurance companies are just spectacular at not reading scientific studies and just looking at their bottom line

@jamesbarca7229 - 2023-10-08

Knowing that Kamikaze pilots were high on meth makes me see them in a whole new light. I've heard about the Germans and Pervitin, but considering everything I've read and watched about the Kamikaze and the war in the Pacific I'm shocked that I never heard this before.

@dayglownick5493 - 2023-10-09

Honestly everybody was on meth back then, or at least some type of speed. Some Allied rations came with amphetamine pills as well

@redharp4749 - 2023-10-09

really?? lmao itrs not that crazy.. so many ppl are on adderall and shit now its pretty normal

@oRealAlieNo - 2023-10-10

The most powerful people are tweakers

@PeterT-i1w - 2023-10-11

everybody talks about Kamikaze, ignoring the fact that suicide attacks of all kinds were a lot more common in the Red Army than among the Japanese

@TylerShackleford - 2023-10-13

@@dayglownick5493I agree that everybody was on speed- but to say that everybody was on “meth“is not true. Amphetamines and methamphetamine are not interchangeable.

@GuardianAzure - 2023-10-08

Super interesting. Never knew this part of Japan's post WW2 history. Thanks!

@happycook6737 - 2023-10-15

My grandma had been very fat so in the 1950's the doctor prescribed amphetamines. It was a common practice in the USA at that time. She was almost normal weight while taking them but then they became illegal in the USA for weight loss. Her weight went back up. She passed in 1987 at 72 years old. The photo of her "thin" days was her pride and joy. Despite constantly trying to diet it was only with the amphetamines she was near normal weight.

@YuckFoutube-e1z - 2023-10-29

Lol the photo of her addicted to meth was her pride and joy. That is funny.

@kamakaziozzie3038 - 2023-12-24

It was a different time.
Nowadays to be morbidly obese is considered healthy (“Healthy at any Weight” campaign) even called sexy by many in the media.

@NuclearAnNoahlation - 2024-01-01

Requiem for a dream displays how much that can backfire

@The_Conspiracy_Analyst - 2023-10-03

It's an open secret that this was the key behind their "economic miracle" and "amazing work ethic". Not only does tweaking make factory work bearable, it actually makes it quite fun.

@freddiepatterson1045 - 2023-10-03

Interesting story but I highly doubt that's actually true

@Aberusugi - 2023-10-03

Sounds like cope from a tweaker

@abdiganiaden - 2023-10-03

Bruh meth doesn’t allow workers to remain sane and they mentally break before they gain much experience

@jesusisunstoppable4438 - 2023-10-03

​@@freddiepatterson1045

Never know.

Kinda makes sense when you look at America's industrial boom late 1800s / early 1900s when Most Hard Core Drugs were Legal.
-- Even Cocain was used in Soda for many many yrs.

@The_Conspiracy_Analyst - 2023-10-03

@@freddiepatterson1045 I guess you didn't listen to the video, LOL

@jbeason2929 - 2023-10-04

@6:40 Wendigoon did a video about "Tokyo Rose." Her story is really sad how she was treated as a traitor after the war ended. People should check it out

@GeDruchy - 2023-10-04

The American Japanese collaborators sounds really interesting, I agree. A video on this would be appreciated !

@stijnvandamme76 - 2023-10-05

0:45 Not correct, Nagai Nagayoshi did not "discover" Methamphetamine!!

It was first discovered in 1887 in Germany by Romanian chemist Lazăr Edeleanu
But Nagayoshi discovered Ephedrine, and the method to synthesize methamphetamine from ephedrine in 1893, That is what he discovered. not Methamphetamine itself.

5:26 Incorrect baseless conclusion..
Japan used Meth(did not win), Germany used Meth (did not win).. US used Meth (did the war)

The War was won on logistics, production of weaponry and tactics.

The Meth did help on tactical level to keep pilots going on long missions.
And I'm fairly certain that infantry in prolonged battles got energy out of it.

So though meth alone does not make you a winner in war.. it does help.. the US has been using "Go pills" in every wars since.. why? because it helps.. They did switch to Diphenylmethyl-sulfinylacetamide instead, for less side effects and addiction.

@AnthemUnanthemed - 2023-10-06

the benefits meth gave to pilots, especially kamakazis are overstated, a lot of times they would do drugs to psych themselves up so if they were given meth they likely stayed up all day and night till flight day and hallucinated targets from sleep deprivation, a lot of them didnt even know how to land so they did what they could so the government wouldnt hurt their families

As soon as withdrawl and comedown and cravings start, all gains are outweighed by the loss of life resulting

@letzte_maahsname - 2023-11-19

So they switched to Modafinil?

@XerrolAvengerII - 2023-10-05

I'm an asthmatic and i still buy over the counter ephedrine during the allergy season. It doesn't cause highness but can cause unpleasant side effects which makes it only worthwhile during the height of the season.

@JanjayTrollface - 2023-10-06

If you take more you will get high. And those side effects go from unpleasant to quite uncomfortable, and if you're a real pig up through the spectrum to hideous or even excruciating, to the point where you think: "I'm never doing that again!". And you don't do it again. Until the next time that you do.

@hebneh - 2023-10-17

As another asthmatic - and now an old man - it was very convenient when Primatene pills and inhalers were available over the counter. Of course that could not and did not last.

@tomlewis4205 - 2023-11-10

Humanity never learns that there is always a downside - a cost hidden or not.

@Frisbieinstein - 2023-10-04

I worked in a lab with toluene (active ingredient of glue). It gave me a headache and a general horrible feeling.

@LifeofBrad1 - 2023-10-04

Yeah. I've breathed in fumes from super glue while applying it to stuff and it made me feel lightheaded after only a minute of breathing it in. Probably gonna wear a respirator when applying it from now on.

@keithammleter3824 - 2023-10-04

this reminds me of my wife. she was given ketamine in hospital to reduce pain from her operation. She didn't like ketamine at all. It made her feel sick. But street kids buy it from crooked vetinary surgeons. It is a mystery why.

@GrandDawggy - 2023-10-06

​@@keithammleter3824 the same way alcohol isn't always enjoyable the first time ketamine can be the same I've only used ketamine a few times but the first two times were much less enjoyable

@randomcow505 - 2023-11-06

@@keithammleter3824 different effects on different people
Ive tried green, light opioids and stimulants and not a single one ever made me feel good, they didn't even have much of an effect I just felt lethargic and sick like an instant hangover
whereas I know people who love the stuff and dont understand why I never use anything more than alcohol

@letzte_maahsname - 2023-11-19

​@@keithammleter3824Some people are looking for this kind of mind alteration. It's neither a good nor bad trait; some people can find stress-relief, some expansion of consciousness, some only a sick feeling in their stomachs. You do get used to the physical side effects though.

@BassForever44 - 2023-10-04

Man, I really appreciate finding your channel. It somehow keeps me connected to lovely Asia, but not in a sugarcoated way, more in a realistic way and I love that. I'll be back there one day. What a place.

@AnthemUnanthemed - 2023-10-09

this video was hella sugarcoated actually, please in addition to this video, do your own research, there is a huge amount of context that they missed, like how iran contra was going on, or how it was fairly well known already that criminalization and prohibition does not prevent use

@animalhouse8849 - 2023-10-05

Explains a lot about the harsh sentences laid out for drug crimes in modern Japan.

@taWay21 - 2023-10-03

Im a simple man. I see Asianometry, I click like.

@i6power30 - 2023-10-04

I'm happy you post forgotten history

@simokoistinen276 - 2023-10-04

Another drug promlem which could be interesting to hear more is mass consumption of heroin and amphetamine in Finland after WW2. I would be glad if you could cover that in some point.

Edit:
There has been some wondering how Finland makes a difference with heroin and amphetamine use after WW2. The difference is that Finland was already the world's biggest heroin user per capita since 1936 and was using more heroin than Denmark, Sweden, Norway and Iceland compined. And it just became much worse after WW2.

@thetruthseeker5448 - 2023-10-04

and all the parties and armies involved during the WWII, Germans, Brits and the US. They were forced to use these drugs not only the Japanese. Sadly it has become a hidden truth, unless and until someone wants to dig it up.

@cognitivedisability9864 - 2023-10-06

Same happened in norway, even long after. For example my uncle became addicted to amphetamines in the army. And ive heard other stories like it. Many wont like to think it, but just as the germans and japansese used amphetamines in ww2 so did the allies. Not alot of info on it but seem several veterans mention it and seen it in weekly field rationa for american troops. Ncos were the ones who gave out to the squad "when neccesary". Also saw a british sas talk about them spiking coffe with some sort of amphetamine that when i googled it i didnt find a SINGLE thing on it.

@badart3204 - 2023-10-06

Yeah, everyone used it in WW2

@bickyboo7789 - 2023-10-08

​@@cognitivedisability9864 modern militaries still give out dexedrine under specific circumstances to Special Forces and pilots.

@Steve-ev6vx - 2023-10-08

Amphetamines aren't that addictive. The hand them out of school kids for adhd. When you stop taking them you don't get sick or anything. The only problems come from taking them to much and stopping fixes all of that. It's downers that have complicated withdrawal processes that lead to quiting being very hard.

@abraxasjinx5207 - 2023-10-04

I remember when real ephedrine pills were sold OTC at gas stations. I used to use them for asthma when I didn't have an Albuterol inhaler during my childhood in the 90s.

@alexcarter8807 - 2023-10-05

You can always get ephedra/Mormon Tea from anyplace that sells herbs, I think there are "bulk" herb sellers online.

@glass1258 - 2023-10-05

Same here

@emberframe6994 - 2023-10-06

Wait thats a meth, i thought it was jsut for the making your breathe easier

@glass1258 - 2023-10-06

@@emberframe6994 it’s a precursor to meth

@abraxasjinx5207 - 2023-10-06

@@emberframe6994 it is the original precursor to meth, though chemists and cooks have found new recipes since ephedrine has become more regulated. Plain ephedra is just a bronchodilator.

@angelvillamor4838 - 2023-10-08

Hopefully this history provides ideas for the similar issue in today's United States of America. The numbers of people caught up in this terrible situation of meth abuse are probably higher than I think it is.
The drug induced psychosis inflicted on people is sad and disturbing. Hopefully the country can learn something from this Japanese history. As well as what has worked in Europe with Portugal's recent developments in the last two decades, or so with their substance abuse. Thanks for this interesting video. Congrats on the work.

@AnthemUnanthemed - 2023-10-09

the iran contra scandal happened at the same time as this japanies "meth epidemic", talking about this in such a narrow view avoids the very real probability that it was the same shit different state, exponentially so when there were americans in japan specifically to "deal" with this "issue"

@EriniusT - 2023-10-09

@@AnthemUnanthemed No it didn't, they happened decades apart

@fool7491 - 2023-10-03

On YouTube, there are two channels called Densho and Go for Broke Center that recorded life's of Japanese American.

@cafefikar - 2024-05-27

My brain linked to the movie "showdown in little tokio" jaja. Anyway, great topic as usual! Sadly for those who honestly tooked when in the army.

@burneraccount900 - 2023-10-04

Excellent and professional work as always.

@Superknullisch - 2023-10-13

Triple five K subs!!! Huge Congrats!

@johnwalsh4857 - 2023-10-04

yah Thailand and the Philippines experienced these kinds of meth violence epidemics, however their response was a lot more brutal compared to the Japanese, Thailand was suffering from a Yaba(meth) epidemic a decade ago , the Thai gov response was to do shoot to kill orders on addicts and thousands were killed. Philippines under duterte recently also did the same thing with even more larger bodycount. However both Thailand and the PHilipiines were able to control their problems however the root cause was still there.

@Trump2024asw - 2023-10-04

I'f the root cause is not addressed they failed to address the problem period.

@johnwalsh4857 - 2023-10-04

@@Trump2024asw Thailand and the PH failed to solve their problems since they did nto go to the root cause which was poverty and the drug lords who were pushing the drugs to the users, reason: The drug lords were rich and influential and were friends of the very same Thai and Filipino politicos who were out killing the addicts, when the addicts were properly culled and the crime rate much lowered back again to pushing drugs.

@johnwalsh4857 - 2023-10-04

@@Trump2024asw also the Thai and PH govs are in collusion with teh drug lords, and their politicos get rich from the bribes. They even cook meth in Manila prisons with full knowledge of the PH gov

@Trump2024asw - 2023-10-04

@@johnwalsh4857 Really that's fucking gross an unfortunately unsurprising God is going to judge humanity harshly an will be justified in all punishment an humbling of us.

@jeffbrinkerhoff5121 - 2023-10-04

Another well produced highly informative video...excellent channel.

@naurrr - 2023-10-06

it's disappointing that this has led to a ban of effective treatments for conditions and disabilities like narcolepsy and ADHD, especially in a society where people with those conditions are expected to work under their crushing work culture and keep up with everyone else.
people will abuse anything they can get their hands on, but prohibition of these treatments just makes it more difficult for those who need adequate healthcare.

@Rene-uz3eb - 2023-10-07

Meth is not adequate healthcare on any planet

@Joseph-dj9pi - 2023-10-08

ADHD isn't a real thing. Just pay attention and get your work done.

@sharonrigs7999 - 2023-10-08

Just like how the opioid epidemic has made things suck for chronic pain patients

@Rene-uz3eb - 2023-10-08

@@sharonrigs7999 adhd comes down to low performance. Performance enhancing drugs speed up anybody, not just adhd. If there's a particular problem, like a energy deficit, then addressing that should be the plan.

@RAPEDBYBLACKS - 2023-10-08

ADHD is a fake condition, like almost all psychological problems. Made up by overly pampered westerners.

@SF-fb6lv - 2024-04-06

Really good content as usual; nice to see you branch out to other subjects too. When it comes to semiconductor news you are the BEST!

@jakedill1304 - 2023-10-04

The hallucinations come from the sleeplessness in a lot of cases, the overall long-term hallucinations even after ceasing are probably just brain damage.. but it's complicated with that particular drug because it can be ingested with tolerances significantly higher than you would think should be possible..

That's one of those things they don't talk too much in the public sphere about, I think because people think if they get their kid rehab or something like that he's going to be okay again.. but not really.. at least on my experience I mean better for sure and maybe even functional.. but again it all depends on various things because some people do amphetamines fairly regularly without going overboard, it's kind of a time-honor tradition in America and around the world from my understanding is correct..

But yeah I just turned into mention the hallucinations are the sleeplessness.. for the most part anyways.. a lot of people get the impression that the drug works in a sort of, like the reputation of bath salts etc or like a dissociative.. and while it can cause you to dissociate that is at the very long end of a series of strings of things. But the big one is the no sleep, the brain can't heal function reset body doesn't heal.. that's where that toothbrush bathtub '90s commercial was hinting at.. like wounds don't heal so end up with a lot of scabs and scars and whatnot and if you're a needle user.. that's you know LOL

Sorry I just had a thought of OCD trying to find a vein.. the benefit I guess of the long-term effects.. I used to date a cocaine shooter, that was every 10 minutes so that was incredibly heartbreaking actually.. you kind of get to a point where all you want to do is help.. find it that is not anything else cuz you know you're stupid like I was when I was younger.

@fredd3.14 - 2023-10-04

especially in a work culture like japan, that seems like it would easily lead to people not sleeping for very extended periods... ignorance of how hard it is to sleep, the negative effects of stimulants etc still unknown.. that's so sad, must have been scary for a lot of people going for days feeling okay, then the shadow people come and you start hearing shit. crazy times..

@Gummo2020 - 2023-10-04

Hit the nail on the head, I was an amphetamine addict for 4 years and used it to binge in all that time (4-5 days straight awake every week). The hallucinations & hints of psychosis were always a fun extra for me, I did see people lose it after being awake for too long though.

@Gummo2020 - 2023-10-04

@@sparklesparklesparkle6318 yeah I was starting to fade away more cause I lived completely isolated, not a good thing although I never stole, attacked someone or altogether did something illegal. I took my frustrations out on my self (self harm).

@AnthemUnanthemed - 2023-10-04

there is a decent amount of miss-info in this vid, they knew stims were addictive, for a long time they knew about cocaine at this point, they had opium going everywhere and knew that was addictive, there have been numerous times governments and companies turned around and feigned ignorance, to avoid being held liable.
Meth is also still sold as an OTC cough suppressant in america, so long as its the weaker version. Also claiming that meth may have been a cause in heart failure is fairly ignorant and can also be attributed to genetics, or coffee, while coffee isnt as toxic, it is and was used more freely than meth, and probably for longer, which can cause the same amount of toxicity as a shorter term meth habit you picked up only after the war.
The continued onslaught of "meth is bad" content normally fails to actually dig into any treatment methods, and normally stick to history, unfortunately due to the amount of lies surrounding this topic you cannot get an idea of anything that happened, so Im glad you actually included that this normally effected the lower classes, but "police putting the law into action" and it "lacking teeth" is extremely counter to harm reduction, this can be seen in the fact that it became used more immediately after prohibition, as well as the rise of crime surrounding the drugs, thus demonizing the people who are SUFFERING from a well known mental health issue known as Substance Use Disorder should never have been locked in a cage for being sick.
Notice how every time laws were put in place it was too keep out impure thoughts or evil other races, and not specifically to help the public, it always had to be against certain groups of people, funny enough at around the same time the iran-contra movement was in full swing, were america (the cunts who hid japanise war crimes after ww2) was throwing as much cocaine and its freebase into black communities to fund weapon shipments to rebel groups in iran and south america, this has always had racists political motivation, it was almost never health motivated, if it was people would be using harm reduction methods like the Swiss did in the 90s, or like peru rn, or like some states rn who are doing decriminalization and legalization of certain substances because legal intervention does not help medical issues, canada is doing the same thing, columbia is trying to get these sorts of laws passed hell there is a video of the ex president of Columbia (could be wrong here may have been another southamerican country with a lot of cartels) who admitted the only reason for the constant demonetization of substances was because it was the only way the public would listen to a topic, and effectivly the public needed to be carefully de-radicalized (the debait was with Hamilton Moris its on yt), I would also like to recommend looking up Dr. Carl Hart, MAPS is also a great research organization that has picked up the good work with mdma that was nearly lost during the 70s when america tried to bury it all, Harvard medical also has some really great addiction studies, hell most universities have stopped producing bullshit that could be misconstrued as danger for the american gov (like that time they used meth instead of mdma and made a bunch of monkeys od, then said "ehh it likely doesnt matter", spoiler alert, it very much did matter, and the amount of mdma that would have been used would not have killed the monkeys, because meth is far more toxic then mdma).
Please please please do research into addiction, expecially as an asian based channel there was a good period where the west was using these same tactics except with opium instead of meth, to demonize asian people and culture, while simultaneously trying to get all of the asians in the country addicted, via a revolving door of abuse, first from people that makes you depressed enough to use, then the torture and inhumane conditions in jail get to you, and now that you have PTSD and ur a "criminal", you are weird, and sick, and wont be allowed to rent a house because no one wants to rent to you, making you more depressed, driving you further into addiction, until people wake the fuck up and allow you to seek medical intervention.

Please do your research on drugs this hurts far far too many people to be misrepresented or to have bits of the story thrown out so you can shorten a youtube vid.

@thepopeofkeke - 2023-10-05

When you haven’t slept your brain just needs to take a shit





Fun with phrasing and 💯 facts

@deadby15 - 2024-03-01

Given the fact 80% of the Yakuza organizations hail from either Korean/Burakumin communities, while prolly exaggerated, the Japanese police' linking the Korean underground organizations to the issue was not entirely wrong, in all fairness. I am not sure about the communisit plot part, but it feels quite possible. During the Cold war, lots of sinister things were done by both parties.

@regularJJ - 2023-11-11

The Germans and the Americans also used amphetamines during WW2. My grandpa was a pilot in the pacific theatre, they called them Bennys. They would fly for 8+ hours a day in their P51's and their bodies would be so ravaged afterwards they needed a crew to remove their stiffened bodies from the plane, remove the flight suit for them and loosen their muscles up with hot water etc.

Also worth mentioning he held the record for the longest combat flight for sometime, at almost 11 hours or something (definitely taking the bennys lol). Him and a few other pilots spent most of the flight trying to find a downed airman, and never found him.

@namenotfound8747 - 2023-10-05

The lost generation of orphans of WWII in Japan would be interesting as a topic. Many people ended up losing their parents in the war, may single mothers that couldn't take care of there kids either sent them away to family, they even sold there kids in slavery or abandoned altogether. And Japan was very quick to swept it under the rug, as it was a point of great shame.