Thy Labs - 2022-06-21
In this video we are making ammonium methyl sulfate from sulfamic acid and methanol. This stuff may be used to make methylamine sulfate. Become a Patreon to see exclusive videos, get early access and see your name at the end of these videos: https://www.patreon.com/thyzoid Join here for additional content and chatting with like minded people: Discord: https://discord.gg/UrjAt44HWH Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/thyzoyd Twitter: https://twitter.com/thyzoid1 TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@thylabs Reddit: https://www.reddit.com/r/THYZOID/
It's great that you show us how to test for the substance.
I don't have access to any expensive equipment like spectrometers and qualitative tests can be a hassle a lot of times.
It isn’t a great test but at least it shows the presence of said substance
This is really cool! Thank you for making this video.
You can test for methylamine sulfate by performing a reductive animation of your favourite ketone xD
No
@@THYZOID good
you need to basify it first
I forgot to mention of discord ive done this reaction and actually tried a second time with ethanol instead and I still need to attempt to do the rearrangement but im hoping ethylamine can be produced this way. If so that could mean a few different primary amines could theoretically be produced starting from Sulfamic acid. By the way when I boiled it to dryness the molten ammonium methylsulfate once it started to solidify must have been exothermic because more methanol boiled off really vigorously. Just a strange side note.
Ethylamine can not prepared using this route iirc
@@THYZOID :(, btw can you make a video on triethanOL amine synth? It's quite useful as a complexing agent but idk if it's doable in home lab
@@dandan-gf4jk Na man I can’t do that. That’s some industrial grade chemistry
Love that filtration flask
Awesome video!
very beautyfull
Super! Thank you very much!
Awesome!
interesting!
love ur vids!!
Methylamine 😳
Here you could even buy methylamine HCl by the kilo legally
I was always bugged by how they had to steal it in that famous series everyone knows. Just make it yourself if youre such a good chemist
@@1HeartCell I'm pretty sure the DEA "encouraged" the producers to switch around all instances of MeNH2 and a certain phenylated carboxylic acid (or its methyl ketone) for whatever reason. Then some things make more sense; for example, they'd have to steal said acid/ketone instead of MeNH2 (since it would be a more controlled substance), as well as the cartel chemist would've been upset that Jesse didn't know how to synthesize MeNH2 rather than PAA (which is actually a much more sensible reason for getting upset).
@@THYZOID What did you do this preparation for? I know only the rearrangement to MeNH2 ;/
@@dimaminiailo3723 And that’s my main plan
Would this work for ethylamine and propylamine too?
Apparently it doesn’t work for ethylamine
ChemPlayer had a video about making CH3NH2 from CH3NH4SO4, but I think this is the first time I see the synthesis of the salt. Btw, is it a strong alkylating agent?
He also made a video on how to make this product as step 1. Too bad his videos were taken down..
Idk if it is a strong alkylating agent but I doubt it as it isn’t really toxic. Most alkylating agents are toxic.
Only at higher temperatures, it would be possible to make nitromethane with it.
@Experimental Chemistry i said it would be possible, not it is legal
@Experimental Chemistry xD
Interesting I have these chemicals but I am afraid to try this. What would be it use?
Methylamine gas for my liquified gasses collection in ampoules and making metal complexes.
@@THYZOID Metal complexes that sound cool!
4 hours of reflux "a very long time"? kek, a long time for me is more like 40 hours reflux, like required for acidic hydrolysis of tertiary amides
my longest one was an entire week lol
@dominike8430 - 2022-06-21
I misread the title and was shocked that you were about to synthesize Methylsulfate 💀