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Synthesising Cyclopentanone through Catalytic Decarboxylation or whatever the correct words are

Extractions&Ire - 2020-06-28

It's winter solstice, so it's the ideal time to gripe about the weather. Also do some chemistry. We need cyclopentanone for another project idea, so we wind the magic wheel of chemistry and pray for good fortune.  Links::: Subreddit: https://www.reddit.com/r/ExplosionsAndFire/
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Steve Connor - 2020-06-28

I love the "rural australian illegal drug lab' decor haha the cops would think theyve found gold till they find actual chemistry going on

kieran O'dea - 2020-07-05

@Extractions&Ire So how does that go over ? Do they test some of the thing you have to see if it contains drugs or do they bring someone who knows chemistry to talk to you ? Or do they just take your word for it ?

A WG - 2021-01-11

"what do you mean you aren't cooking meth?!"

Misha600 - 2021-02-03

@Rickford Morningstar They're going to make a law specifically targeting you.

Aloysius Kurnia - 2021-02-09

The cop might as well found literal gold

Marek Ant - 2022-01-21

@kieran O'dea anyone know ? I'm curious as well

Rasmus Hanson - 2020-06-28

High school chemistry teacher: "Now, be incredibly careful not to contaminate your sample."
Australian methcook: "Oy think thet's wotah, but em not sure, ah fack it, we'll be oright."

Super Noodles - 2020-06-28

Just add rocks to taste

Extractions&Ire - 2020-06-29

@Super Noodles delicious

Mark Deleon - 2020-07-15

Hahahaahaha

Sam B - 2021-10-26

wow, reading this I just realized, we totally do say water as "wodah". Then again, we are clearly correct and the way everyone else says it is weird :)

Rasmus Hanson - 2021-10-26

@Sam B Petition to make Australian the new English default, starting now.

moonik665 - 2020-06-28

"if you can't see bad stuff happening, then it isn't happening" - ah, quantum chemistry right there.

CatOnChronic - 2020-07-02

SchrΓΆdinger's flask

Carlo Dimidio - 2020-06-28

One day, I too will have a pantry full of things for chemistry.

Bob Dole - 2020-06-29

Same

a smol bean - 2020-06-30

Life goals

Marvin Robledo - 2020-06-30

It took me long and a lot of money.

WolfEatSheep - 2020-12-01

@Bob Dole CD and v

Zachary Allen - 2021-10-18

Every pantry is full of things for chemistry if you're determined enough!

BuickDoc - 2020-07-01

Chemist here: Good video! A short fractionating column would have improved your yield greatly since you would not have lost reactant by vaporization. It would have stayed in the reaction pot to produce more product. Off the top of my head I don't know the difference in boiling point between adipic acid and cyclopentanone, but it should be large, thus an easy separation. Also that yellow color would not have come over.

Advice: I would stop by your local constable's office and let them know that you are not cooking meth. Might save an embarrassing situation if someone gets pissed at you and makes a malicious report.

bob :} - 2021-08-06

@BuickDoc in actual chemistry do you just stick rocks in the mix

BuickDoc - 2021-08-06

@bob :} Yes, 'boiling stones'. Some kind of porous silicate rock that is crushed to provide a high surface area.

Anders Juel Jensen - 2022-01-10

@bob :} Less fancy chemists use crushed glassware. And then there is Tom who just uses sand or rocks.. because Aussie shed chemistry is done with what you have while holding your phone with one hand and mixing shit that can kill you with the other.

cwtrain - 2020-06-28

The speed runner split HUD was a good chuckle.

Can't wait for the Summoning Salt video.

Varad Mahashabde - 2020-06-29

It seems I have found a man of culture

shingshongshamalama - 2020-11-16

How many buses do you think it takes to sublimate acid?

SuperDd40 - 2020-07-01

"Don't touch the poison without the glove" Needs to be made in a T-shirt or stickers.

Spk - 2020-06-29

Never in my entire life did I think I would see a Speedrun Split overlay in a chemistry demonstration

Bernard - 2020-06-28

Magnesium stearate is commonly used in pharmaceutical compounding as a lubricant. When included as an excipient it reduces sticking of the granulation to punches and dies :-)

chnhakk - 2020-06-28

Why does it die tho?

Bernard - 2020-06-28

HakkΔ± Oktay too many punches, I guess. It’s a form of drug abuse.

boyo - 2020-06-30

wtaf

Humbulla93 - 2021-03-21

@Bernard it also used in pills to make them bigger and more easily to press

Kenneth Compton - 2020-06-28

No, man, you didn't just do a simple distillation in one day, it was the shortest day of the year, which of course means higher probability that things go wrong, obviously. But they didn't! Well, not a lot. Well done.

A Tap Helicopter - 2020-06-28

Ooh fun! Forgot winter was in June in Australia

taylor daniels - 2020-06-29

Wish this is what my winter solstice looked like. Alberta Canada is a bit cooler

baha altamimi - 2020-06-29

taylor daniels just a bit tho. But warmer in ON

Ben Knapik - 2020-06-29

Him talking about winter in Australia is the same as summer in AB so farπŸ˜‚ cold wet and miserable

boyo - 2020-06-30

welcome to the UK, its winter for all of time till about 3 weeks where sun and or sun and heavy rain shows up.

A Tap Helicopter - 2020-06-30

Cold, wet and miserable is just summer in the UK. I should know. It’s been raining for a week straight now.

opl500 - 2020-06-28

It's not Magnesium Stearate, it's Chinesium, an unstable element.

Justin Koenig - 2020-06-28

unusable*

aga - 2020-06-28

@Justin Koenig ... unusable ... like an iPhone, Made in China.
... or pretty much All electronic devices, like this Hewlet Packard laptop i'm typing on.
All made in typong.

Licensed and Certified NPC - 2020-07-01

converts anything it touches into chinesium

Rasmus Risanen - 2020-07-02

Is Chinesium yellow?

Bolorbold Ariguun - 2020-07-08

Made in Chinesium

Mark Dombrovan - 2020-06-28

Really appreciate the tiny bit of meme editing on this one. This is what videos on this channel lacked, even if it's just a pinch - I'm happy

Extractions&Ire - 2020-06-28

Yeah I've decided it's worth the little bit of extra effort editing to add that extra stuff in, so hopefully I get better at it

Mark Dombrovan - 2020-06-28

@Extractions&Ire tbh I only really noticed explosions and fire thanks to the meme editing, otherwise I'd be like "oh well, another cool small chemistry channel", and not "woah, he is cool, I better recommend him to my chem friends and watch all his vids"

Joejoemyo - 2020-09-26

"Don't touch the poison without the gloves"
Organic Mercury: πŸ€”
Nitric acid: πŸ€”

Wayne Cooper - 2020-06-28

Actually, I believe the correct term for this reaction type is, "Ketonic Decarboxylation". It has been used for centuries to form ketones from various metallic salts of organic acids.

boyo - 2020-06-30

big up my diabetic squad who cant have ketones!

gfhrtsherghegh egewgewgew - 2020-06-28

>adding random rocks of unknown chemical composition to the distillation
it's like you WANT yellow chemistry or something

nibblrrr - 2021-01-31

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GregTheDev - 2020-06-28

re: light coming in over the door. One thought is get an old florescent light fixture difuser and mount that ontop of the gap. Ideally I imagine that difusing the sunlight enough that with the door closed and only the top gap there it would give even lighting to the whole room, then open the door up again when not filming to get your normal airflow

Ajg0r - 2020-06-30

The specific sun angle this would work best would be for a very short time of the day and I don't think it would be really usefull. Also diffusers eat up a lot of light, so I'm not sure the gap would have a big enough area.

Tweets - 2020-06-29

"It's the winter solstice so..."

It's summer here in the UK and the weather looks about the same...

Mr Nice - 2021-02-17

I think the prisoners you send to down under got a good deal ;P

shingshongshamalama - 2020-11-16

"I probably won't finish this until I retire in..."
You can hear the moment of his brain desperately avoiding thinking about the fact he'll never be free of this.

Water Under The Bridge - 2020-07-05

6:02 A good way to remember which is which is through stalactites having a T (where the vertical line hangs down from the ceiling) and stalagmites having a M (where both peaks rise up from the ground)

Jake D. - 2021-12-14

I have never been able to remember it and I’m stoned as shit and you just blew my entire mind

Clementine - 2020-12-28

You make chemistry fun and funny. You'd be a fantastic teacher

Kaaski - 2021-01-18

This channel has really caused me to reexamine my relationship with the color yellow.

Alex Javanainen - 2020-06-29

You’re spot on with the niche, chemistry-related zingers in this one haha

Tom's Lab - 2020-06-28

I look forward to the coming Ochem project! Also thanks for shout-out, this put me over 3000 subscribers :)

Jonathan Switzer - 2020-06-28

Another amazing vid! I'm never unimpressed by your skill and knowledge

Bob Sagely - 2020-06-28

Do you have a reference for this reaction? I wonder if the cyclization could be done with skatole as well

hoggif - 2021-01-07

A tip: look at what direction you put the lab stand! If you put it away from the load you need weight more often then 180 degrees the otherway. Sidewides to cooler is not good either, preferrably the stand end under the cooler.

Jeffery Crouch - 2020-06-30

You are by far my favorite chemistry tutor

Rokevh - 2020-06-28

I appreciate the editing though! I love how the drops match the snare

Daniel Matthews - 2020-06-28

I'd like to see you use that barium to make hydrogen peroxide. BaO2 + H2SO4 β†’ H2O2 + BaSO4 Seems simple but I don't think anyone has a video of the process, inc the steps to get the pure BaO2.

Josh St. Louis - 2020-07-03

Coarse sand that had been acid piranha treated works well for boiling chips. Broken glassware bits provide clean but intermittently effective use.

De paus van de Lilith Kerk - 2020-06-28

"or whatever the correct words are" those words alone deserve a thumbs up and I enjoyed the video too

Mason Cook - 2020-07-25

I would like to see you attempt creating a perchlorylamine compound. I think it would not only be rather simple, but it'll also make a terrifying explosive. ( Primary amine reaction with dichlorine Heptoxide )

Extractions&Ire - 2020-07-25

I think calling a reaction simple when you use a reagent like dichlorine heptoxide is pretty insulting to safety standards everywhere haha. I'd love to make Cl2O7 one day. I have the reagents I think, but I still haven't come up with a way of comfortably doing it safe enough!

Mason Cook - 2020-07-25

@Extractions&Ire I mean... what's so unsafe about perchloric acid and white phosphorus? Lmao. I've seriously enjoyed your videos though, as a O-chemist who works in synth, its always a pleasure. :)

Edmilson Souza - 2020-06-28

Muito bom seu canal

Sheran Naidoo - 2020-06-28

Mate....on the issue of darkness ,there is such a thing called electric lightning. Give it a try.....thx for the awesome content

AvocadoQuarter - 2020-12-27

Even better, candle light! Open flame in a chemistry lab; good ambience.

O Z - 2020-06-28

12:12 what a genius fakin idea to line up the beats with the drops πŸ‘πŸΏ

Geordie Matthews - 2020-06-28

Yeah, might fine work that. Go Tom!

Benzene - 2020-07-07

That was satisfying I must say.

caspar valentine - 2020-06-28

tom, if you still want to make cyanuric azide, you can get cyanuric chloride from limac. i've ordered stuff from them before and they didn't ask any questions

Patrick - 2020-06-28

Another magnificent video, this is a quick turn around, maybe you are improving? I think so.

Extractions&Ire - 2020-06-30

Maybe! Or maybe for once, the chemistry just worked as expected and planned....

Deliberate Dendrite - 2020-06-28

Barium Hydroxide, didn't you also use that during the ferrate stream? I mean, back then there were jokes about making "a certain organic compound which I can't say the name of", this product actually looks like it's in the right direction. You just need to get rid of a few methylene groups to move on to the next step. :P

Extractions&Ire - 2020-06-28

Did we use it then?? Can't remember. And oh are you getting excited because it's got a ketone group lol, yeah we're not going there!

Deliberate Dendrite - 2020-06-28

@Extractions&Ire IIRC it was to precipitate out the ferrate.

No acetone but despite that this video was definitely worth sharing on r/yellowchem.

Anthony St.Louis - 2020-06-28

I am totally addicted to your channel. Also i live in Maine and its summer here. Hope your doing ok with all this crazieness in the world.

Brett Savageau - 2020-06-30

Me too! Sanford here!

slightly amused black kid from the suburbs - 2020-06-28

Chemistry is so interesting I love your videos even though I don't understand some of it haha

Prateek Karn - 2020-06-28

Ah yes, I'm in high school and when I have to use chemistry words to explain something. The amount of times I've tripped talking because I cannot words.
That title sums it all up.

DRChupacabrah - 2021-09-29

12:12 the drips timed with the beat was cool, good editing

Hillbilly Music Ltd. - 2020-06-28

Hang a thin, white sheet as a "wall" between you and the door. It will soften and diffuse the sunlight but still allow you to vent the room.

Nemo Sparks - 2021-06-10

Every aussi has had a shed like this or just been in one or two, its kinda creepy and odly nostalgic seeing the buliding gaps uneven floor random chemicals laying around and usually an old mower or two and enough screws,nails and scrap metal to build a submarine

Random Experiments Int. - Experiments and syntheses - 2020-06-28

Even though it's nothing special, it's still fascinating to me that it's winter at some other place on earth, while it's summer here in europe and the other way around... Nevertheless, nice video! I always wanted to try some decarboxylation, but in the end I didn't feel like taking care of the tar in the flask. I guess you want to use that acidic C-H bond? :)

Extractions&Ire - 2020-06-30

There's a lot I can do with this actually, but next up is planned a bromination....

Citrus Quest - 2020-06-29

came for the chemistry, stayed for the aphex twin

C 139 - 2020-08-13

I would have washed the cyclopentanone with a concentrated NaCl solution, then with a bit of NaOH to remove the remaining adipic acid, to then wash again with NaCl solution, separate and add MgSO4 to dry everything.

adrianpip2000 - 2020-06-29

You should get a heat gun so it's easy to remove stuff in order to prevent clogging during the distillation

WhopChop - 2020-06-30

I literally know next to nothing about chemistry but this channel makes me feel smart

FEELING HEALING FREQUENCES - 2022-01-19

fuk n right
me too
what an under rated comment